Hi all, I (we) need 0-line staff implemented natively in Dorico. No hacks (thanks Fred Gunn), no turnarounds, no Adobe editing. Just a simple direct option. It is a BASIC tool we need daily in music education and in musicological editions. Please, add it to Dorico.

If one has a 0-line staff, what would be the point of clefs and key signatures? In my opinion a 0-line staff is not something a notation program should offer, the more I think about it..

[image] k_b: In my opinion a 0-line staff is not something a notation program should offer, the more I think about it.. Gould’s book is full of 0-line staff examples. It’s also super common in educational materials. You don’t think Dorico should be able to handle this? [Gould] [image] k…

Janus, Thanks for the language correction. Not so much for the bumping reprimand. When the customers demands remain unatended for so many years, it is our right to keep asking.

Thanks, FredGUnn. Yours is just one excellent example, but there are so many more. I guess many “composers” will not understand this demand, but many teachers and musicologists understand the need to write examples such as theese. That is what a real notation software (not just scoring) should do …

Just read the FredGUnn reply. It is exactly what I am talking about.

[image] Santiago_Galan: Not so much for the bumping reprimand. When the customers demands remain unatended for so many years, it is our right to keep asking. Please refer to the standing rules of the forum… [image] Four simple guidelines to help us help you Dorico …

I am sorry, Janus, English is not my first language so I do not understand exactly the negative meaning of “bumping”. I am just reminding of a feature I consider important for my (and others, I guess) job, that keeps unantended by the Team, after years and years of people asking, and some answers (…

Lovely examples, I must confess. I do have the Gould book and never noticed; it does look cleaner that way. Also the medieval handwriting, just beautiful. I guess my reaction is if people are demanding instead of asking. I just don’t like it, almost all cultures don’t see this attitude as a succe…

[image] Santiago_Galan: I am just reminding… There is no need and no value in doing so. (That is bumping. And I’d guess English is not a first language for the majority of forum users). Important features to some are unimportant to others (and the majority of users never express an opinion),…

[image] k_b: I guess my reaction is if people are demanding instead of asking. I just don’t like it, And I suspect that attempting to shame (or criticize) developers (or anyone) into doing something is a self-defeating method of persuasion.

0-line staff, yes, again (june 2026)

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Janus June 20, 2026, 3:34pm 21

Please refer to the standing rules of the forum…