[2.1.3] VL is crashing without crashing

VL is crashing on my new Computer/Windows11 Pro System and I can´t figure out what is happening here!

All started with the problem, that VL doesn’t save my Audio-Driver Settings so I have to set the correct driver on every startup to the YAMAHA Steinberg USB Driver because I am using an Steinberg 824 Interface.
Nothing about this driver is found in the .ini file at all?!?!

The I was asked to check the crashdumps and I found that every time I quit the VL App it crashes and writes a 33 MB Dumpfile to my drive without giving me a hint that it crashes.

I first thought, maybe this happens because of my installation path that was not C: but D: (all super fast SSD drives) but after uninstalling VST Live Pro and reinstalling it on C: nothing changed!

So what should I say now? Can someone please explain this to me?
VL is now running on the “default” installation path on a few weeks old new Computer that has more than enough power to handle this app!
Computer

A little support would be very helpful now

First, please send the latest of those dumpfiles.

Second, try “Help/Remove all user data”. This doesn’t cost you much, but you will need to apply changes to preferences you did, and re-configure some stuff here and there.

I already send @Spork access to my GDrive where I uploaded also the latest crashdumps from today.
This morning I re-installed VL to my drive C: and after updating Windows (regular Update) and one - two Re-Starts of the entire System VL now holds the correct Audio-Driver. There were no additional changes to the system.
So, one small step in the right direction!

There is no “Rollback” for this right!
When its gone its gone and I have to remember what I configured is that correct?

No, but it’s really harmless. We do it from time to time to exclude corrupt user data. It’s just re-issuing some “Don’t show again” alerts, and you need to re-apply changes to preferences if different from their default values. No assets or project data are affected at all.

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Hi @musicullum ,

that was not the solution to the problem. I used “Help/Remove all user data”, saved the project, closed VL and did a Reboot of the System.
Then I opend the project, saved the project and closed VL.
And then I got anoter Crashdump file wich I already uploaded to the GDrive so that Spork has access to it.

Ah and the audio driver now has to be set on every programstart. Dont know how I managed to make it work this morning. But it is gone again!

@Detgyver, thank you very much for getting access to the files. We’ve analysed the crash logs. It’s always crashing in the “license-access-engine.dll” - So, the License Management. Currently we are investigating it more to get it fixed.

/Michael.

Hi @Detgyver,

we need some more information from your system to understand the crash. Can you please start the “Steinberg Activation Manager” application and run the “Create Diagnostic Report”, please? A Zip file will be created. Please send it to me or drop it here.

Thank you,
Michael.

Hi @Spork ,
I dropped the Report here and I droped it to the GDrive. I hope that helps finding the problem.

Steinberg-Activation-Manager-Diagnostics_20240913T065902.zip (413.5 KB)

… thank you!

Hi @Detgyver,

the next Pre-Release will save your current audio driver after a successful driver-switch.

To return to your crash. What happens when you start a new project and close it directly? Another crash and *dmp file? What’s your default instrument in the Song_1/Part_1/Layer_1?

/Michael.

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I tested this scenarios:

  1. create new empty project
  2. Close VL
    → No New Crash Dump File

Then I tested:

  1. create new empty project
  2. Save (empty) project
  3. Close VL
    → No New Crash Dump File

We use nothing in the “Layer” Window!
We use VL as very advanced Backingtrack-Player and use between 5 and 15 Tracks using .mp3 Instrument-Tracks.

Layers is empty:

Tracks-View

Most of our Songs only have one Part! I thing 3-5 have a view parts but most often we dont need them at the Moment - But Things are changing.

No changes here with 2.1.4!
I added two new crashdumps to the Google-Drive folder.

Have a nice weekend! :sunglasses:

No changes here with 2.1.5!
VST is still crashing on my system every time I close it using “quit”.
I added two new crashdumps to the Google-Drive folder.

… that’s right. The colleagues of the license-engine are still investigating your case. You remember? It’s crashing in the license-engine. Another idea could be that “HALion Sonic” causing the problem. You have many songs in your project, right? But you don’t need Layers, right? Can you check if a HALion Sonic instance is loaded somewhere?

Thank you,
Michael.

I checked that and found a few Songs that had active “HALion Sonic” Settings in the Layer (coming from an very old Song-Template that I used to create the Songs) I removed this setting complete in ALL Songs and that changes nothing. It is still crashing. I did a double-check and a complete Restart and it is still crashing.
I loaded the two new crashdumps to the Gdrive fro you.

Update [2.1.7]
In 2.1.7 are no improvements here. The App is crashing when I close the App using “File/Exit”. I had previously assumed that crashes would not be accepted and that a solution would be found as quickly as possible. The last crash dump was even 77 MB in size. I have also uploaded this to the GDrive, which you have access to.

… I still have no news from our license-engine colleagues. I’ll contact them again. Sorry for that one. And can you please give me access to the latest crash dump, please?

Thank you,
Michael.

@Spork you should have access to my GDrive. Please give me a sing if it is not working for you!