Hi, I’m facing issues with the VST LIVE MODS since I have updated to the latest versions. I have used the Lyrics Module which was working very stable. Now I have the Problem that in the App it Shows many times for some seconds offline, sometime it ist async after. Also the Song in the headline is not shown correctly and often stucks at the first song name.
I noticed the same issue. with VST LIVE MOD 1.5. It switch between onine and offline out of nothing. At the moment it is not stable and usable anymore. Hope, this issue will be saved soon.
I can´t confirm that this issue is related to a mesh environment. I use a direct connection from the Laptop to my mobile device (iPad / iPhone)
Just tried the latest version 2.2.10 and it is still not working. Still online/offline issues and it shows “no song” in the headline in VST LIVE MOD after the first connection issue.
Can I support with some data because I really liked this feature but currently it is not usable as it is very unstable.
In the rehersal I didn’t have any problem. But there is only one WLAN router with no internet connection. At home I have a mesh and also see this online/offline behaviour. So the difference, also to your setup, is a dedicated WLAN router. Maybe the direct connection Laptop/IOS devices is not stable enough.
@Falfango@Antric
Maybe ping-ing, or another network diagnostics can pont to the problematic area. I have expensive routers (one spare) and can even drive my DMX lights on two universes w.o. interruption to lyrics.
However - my experience is - as soon as there is a signal drop (e.g. iPad get’s to shadow) connection is usually or partly not restored, then I need to close, re-launch iOS MODS.
hmmm, I just opened VL, opened iOS MODS and all working fine…
can you ping (or “ping -t” on windows) your iOS device from the VL host for a few minutes and see if connection is healthy, no “request timeout …” lines, etc…
(please note AFAIK: iOS needs to be unlocked during ping)
Also please check if you have 3rd party firewall, anti-this and that software running and controlling network traffic, etc… Disable them all for now.
Do not affraid, when I did such works…
were living w.o. any anti-something software, furthemore had a folder full with malwares, viruses (for HW-firewall and security checking back in WinXP and Win7 times)
Hi Fkalmus, thanks for your suggestion but I have already checked the WLAN stability. Ping running for 30min - max time= 30ms with no timeouts e.g.
As I use the Laptop only offline I have disabled firewall and anti-something
Do you have the same issue that it shows “no song” in the headline?
I will additional check the same setup with another PC including a WIFI router…let´s see if there is the same issue
So I checked my project again with a dedicated router just connecting the Laptop by LAN and the IOS devices by WIFI. No Mesh, no IPv6, no internet.
But I still see the issue with “no song” in the headline if a move through the room. The Online/Offline issue is just if I move the devices away and the wifi strength is reduced.
…or lost for a moment… @musicullum this is my experience too, and you had the question about a “reconnect” button, but that won’t be practical for multiple reasons. Could you and Spork help us with some automatic-solution in the future?
Exactly how far away are you moving, and why?
Does the “router” have sufficient range and what is it?
Does it have the latest firmware?
Have you tried better aerials on the device?
Is it a closed network?
Does it have internet access?
Have you steered clear of the 2.4Ghz?
Are you on a less used channel?
Have you assigned static ip addresses?
If you fix your network then you won’t have a problem. Stable network = working VSTL/LiveMods.
Exactly how far away are you moving, and why?
Not so far, because I want to test the stability
Does the “router” have sufficient range and what is it?
I have used a FritzBox 7490 for the tests
Does it have the latest firmware?
Latest firmware on FritzBox and also latest Intel WIFI drivers on Laptop
Have you tried better aerials on the device?
No as they are internal
Is it a closed network? yes
Does it have internet access? no
Have you steered clear of the 2.4Ghz? I use the 5Ghz network as we are using some 2.4Ghz for InEar e.g. - I know that the distance for 5Ghz is much lower than 2.4
Are you on a less used channel? yes
Have you assigned static ip addresses? yes
I disagree with your point “fix your network and you won´t have a problem” as for example you can never ensure a less used channel in a live environment (several Bands with different wireless equipment where channels are switching during live performance).
There could be always the possibility that the signal gets lost for a moment and therefor I´m fully with the proposal of fkalmus to implement an automatic “reconnect” solution to be robust in a live environment.
Your previous comments indicate a network fault or configuration issue especially if you are dropping signal while “not that far away”.
It’s easy (for some) to blame the software for issues outside of its control. Mine is rock solid with network and wireless MIDI since the last release but what do I know? - maybe I’m just lucky
I do agree that LiveMods should be better at recovery but that’s only one side of the problem.
If wireless doesn’t work properly because of airway congestion then maybe a wired solution would be better, much as I hate to suggest it.
We can agree to differ…
It is certainly not my intention to blame anyone. I am simply sharing my experience, and so far, everything I have reported has been fixed by the Steinberg Team, therefor again many thanks for your support.
I agree that Wi-Fi stability has a significant influence. However, as I have already mentioned, we are dealing with a live environment where it is impossible to completely eliminate all risks, especially with the presence of numerous wireless devices.
After conducting several tests, I have reached the following conclusions:
Reconnect Issues: There are reconnect issues with the VST LIVE Mods. @fkalmus has already reached out to @musicullum for support on this matter.
Song Title Issue: The song title functionality is not working as expected. Even when the laptop is connected via LAN and the iOS device is placed close to the router (no ping and connection problems), the following issues persist:
Sometimes, the message “no song” is displayed.
The song title does not update as VST LIVE transitions to the next song. As a result, the title of the first song remains displayed for all 10 songs in the project.