2 Questions - apologies if already covered elsewhere

Hi,
Apologies again. I have two questions.

  1. regardless of what I choose in the Engraving Options menu, I can’t place a rehearsal mark where it should intuitively be. It always ends up here:

  2. after having created a slash note voice, now, when I write on the normal voice, Dorico keeps creating the rests for the other voice I’m no longer using, and I’m manually selecting and hitting “delete rests”. is there a reason why and a way to avoid it?

Thanks again
-m

Click the last note of the voice (where you don’t want rests after), open the Properties zone (Cmd-8), and select Ends Voice.

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Thanks!

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  1. Where precisely do you want the rehearsal mark to be?

I’m sure there’s an easy reason but until someone else tells you, if you upload the project a few of us could fiddle with it.

I guess where I would expect it to be:

Dorico can’t position the rehearsal mark there automatically without it encroaching too much on all of the other things that are clustered there. You should be able to move it there yourself in Engrave mode, however.

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thanks @dspreadbury

If you change the grid to a small value and nudge the tempo and text markings forward one or two clicks using alt-right arrow, this will likely be enough to allow Dorico to position the rehearsal mark automatically. There is simply too much stuff going on at one place for the spacing algorithms to cope with.

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Hi all,
Yep, I can manually move rehearsal marks where I want to, that’s fine. Still I’m finding it really hard to understand why some things get moved around in (sometimes) unthinkable places in the score or in the parts…see this example of the same passage in the score and then in its part.
Score:


Part:

I have’t touched anything in hopes that part would look usable right away (unlike Sibelius), but he part in general looks very hard to read and full of collisions (a disaster to be honest, exactly like in Sibelius).

So I’m finding it very hard to justify all this time I am investing into learning Dorico, if the results are the same and I confess I am a bit discouraged at the moment.

Sorry as I didn’t mean to turn this post into a rant, but maybe I am missing something important that would help me avid these issues.

Kind regards and best wishes for a happy new year.
-m

Thanks @dspreadbury , but shouldn’t they at least avoid colliding or covering existing music/symbols?

The problem is one of spacing - whereas they are beautifully spaced in the score, the width of the bars in the parts are different, so your text items are being squashed against others. Dorico is doing its best to make good decisions, and placing rehearsal mark above text is naturally best choice here (not good for you though).

I would never leave the parts up to a notation program, especially when you have so many things going on. Tweak and tweak and tweak until it works. First thing I would address in your part is casting off, then maybe staff spacing. You could probably lower the staff size a little to fit more in too

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It appears that Dorico knows the page is overcrowded vertically. I’d be interested in seeing an image of the entire page with Signposts turned on.

@mikeheels, it would be interesting to see the project file itself, because I think you can probably achieve much better default layout in parts than you’re seeing with a few judicious changes to Layout Options, but until I can see a bit more context I can’t say for sure what I would advise.

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Thanks Daniel, can I send it to you privately? (I’m happy to but I’m not allowed to share the project publicly)
Many thanks
Best
-m

Sure, you can either send it to me in a private message here, or via email to d dot spreadbury at steinberg dot de.

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