Hello,
I am preparing a Brahms score and I need to notate a dotted–multi note tremolo.
After entering the dotted-note sextuplet, duodecuplet and then applying a multi-note tremolo, Dorico changes the dotted eighth notes into plain eighth notes, dotted quarter notes into plain half notes.
Is there a way to apply a multi-note tremolo while keeping the dotted notes, or is this behavior intentional?
It’s more or less complicated depending on whether you want to display “6” and “12” or not.
If you don’t want them displayed, enter your tuplets as 3:2x and 3:2e.
If you do want 6 and 12 to appear, you’ll need nested tuplets: 6:4x/3:3x and 12:8x/3:3e.
Without 6 and 12:
With 6 and 12:
Don’t pay attention to my custom shortcuts for start/stop tuplet entry!
It appears that a highly specialized method is required. I sincerely appreciate your effort in creating a video to explain this in response to my question.
one more question.
Could you explain the meaning of x and e in tuplet ratios?
I understand that e refers to an eighth-note–based tuplet (i.e., the tuplet’s time is defined relative to an eighth note), while x seems to indicate that no explicit base note value is specified and that the tuplet inherits its timing from the surrounding or parent context. However, I’m still a bit unclear on how these two behave differently in nested tuplets.
Could you clarify how x and e differ conceptually, and when one should be used instead of the other?
e means indeed eighth, while x means 16th.
For reference:
For some reason (I’m not sure why), Dorico only keeps the dots in tremolos inside tuplets if the original notes (dotted eighths and dotted quarters in your case) are entered in tuplets that match their exact (individual) length. That’s why you need 3:2x and 3:2e in the first example — otherwise you loose the dots in the tremolos, as you noticed.
When you want to display the 6 and 12, the trick is to enter larger tuplets (6 and 12) so that those tuplet ratios appear, and then enter the individual note values inside them: since you’re already inside tuplets, the 3:2x become 3:3x, and the 3:2e become 3:3e.
It’s not very easy to explain (my English is limited), but I hope this makes sense!
Maybe someone else will be able to explain this more clearly 
My English is not very strong either, so I rely on ChatGPT for help.
Your explanation was extremely clear and easy to understand, and it was truly an excellent answer.
I don’t think I could have hoped for a better response than this.
I feel very fortunate that you came across my question.
Thank you so, so much for taking the time to explain it so carefully.
