Manual on a 30" monitor, searchable, and expandable - that is my world … you can keep the paper and “Save the Tree’s - Save the Tree’s - Save the Tree’s” sorry i was hugging a Sequoia …
to each his own … maybe one day an iPad will fall into your lap and there is your Manual / i would not be able to find anything in the manual unless i could do a search - really is a time saver … in the meantime, good deal on the printing …
cheers
john
I’d be interested to know how much energy this topic has used up
Views as well as comments. Plus Ipad smartphone use etc. Bs.Going to sleep with a good
Book is different to going to sleep with lights flashing and strobing through your head.Get it right
when I buy a care or whatever I dont get a pdf. If they want more for the product so be it.But all things come with a maual.
Just because some print shops will do it does not make it legal to do so - there are countless places that used to advertise iPod ripping & loading services if you supplied the CD’s - it was still illegal though. I know - we used to offer a vinyl > CD service and got hit with a “cease & desist or go to court under the Copyright & Related Rights act” by the UK Patent office. I still have the email - they were very, very nasty about it too - even though what we did was soley for OOP discs.
Given the cost of Nuendo there ought to be a printed manual. I get so tired of reading how I should get with the 21st century & read PDF onscreen or via a bloody iPad. I do not want an iPad. Not now, not ever.
There are many other inexpensive e readers out there now, the trend is going deeper into digital to the point where software is soon to be digital download mostly.
Remember when we all bought CDs and now as tech advances end user sound quality goes down as most listen to mp3, and its downloaded, in fact music subscription services are booming, I kind of liked owning my CDs , collecting them.
Just bought WL8 and was astounded that there wasn’t a printed manual. I have to say, even the PDF was extremely poorly written for a first time user. The entire architecture of WL8 on first open made no sense to me and I’ve been using DAWs since they were introduced. I had never heard of an “audio montage” - particularly when what it REALLY is is a “project”. And it doesn’t open to a blank one by default. And even though the hierarchy for work is clearly “AM” on top, with file editing (aka “Sample editor”) underneath, the icon for the file editor is ABOVE the AM editor in the task bar? I had to simply have some one explain the workflow to me.
I went crazy before buying WL trying to find out why SO many established mastering engineers don’t use it. It made no sense to me considering the feature set. Now I begin to see why. The default screen ISN’T where you do the work and you’re confronted with about 50+ icons bending all the way around the frame of the screen. It looks like a programmer threw up on my screen.
These are WL-specific gripes, but to the point at hand, if you’re going to sell an expensive, powerful software tool that is definitely less than intuitive, you OWE it to your users to not only provide a printed manual, but one that clearly explains the narrative of the workflow right up front. A job that would be MUCH easier if the workspace actually HAD a clear narrative. Nuendo is at least worlds better than WL in that regard. Either way, a workflow IS a narrative. It’s a story of how to get from raw material to finished product.
May I recommend Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance for summer reading at SB?
And yes please…printed manuals. I can refer to an index and back to the relevant page faster than anyone can type in a search into an ipad.
Hopetown, I believe you are on the wrong Forum, this is the Nuendo 6 one…
If you want to get an straightforward overview on how Wavelab 8 works I suggest you sign up for the groove3.com
Tutorial Videos for Recording, Mixing & Production and go through the 2 WL 8 classes.
They are very informative.
As to why so many mastering engineers are not using WL, because a majority is on the MAC and WL just recently became available on the MAC, WL is incredibly powerful and once you grab the concepts you’re most likely going to love it
I’m already enjoying it - but the point was about the lack of a manual - I’m a Nuendo user too so I’m on the right forum. Wavelab was just my most recent example. My point was that I needed a fellow user to explain it to me before I could get comfortable. Your proposed solution is equally silly from the standpoint of a customer - although it’s practical and I appreciate it. A user well-versed in audio software, particularly by the SAME manufacturer - shouldn’t have to reach out to 3rd party resources just to get a basic grasp of the workflow. That’s what a manual is for. In this particular case Wavelab unusually strays from the norm.
Your assertion that most ME’s are on Mac is incorrect, BTW. A large number are using Sequoia, Pyramix and Sadie - all PC.
The only dominance the Mac had for mastering was with Sonic Solutions, which I used to own too. Those numbers have dwindled considerably over the years as Sonic got smaller and the software ever less reliable and features got reduced instead of added. Most flocked to Magix.