Adding Groups/busses: Cant be routed into higher existing groups

This has always bugged me and wondering if there was actually a solution by now

I mostly run to a template. Occasionally I need to add a group etc and sometimes I need it to route to an existing group but it seems there is no way to reorder groups when they are made ie you cant just drag them above another track so it can route into it

eg I create a group and the outputs are only those downstream at time of creation

vs stuff made at start of template

The screenshots don’t necessarily help if you don’t expand the Groups in the first shot.

Its the mix view…i meant a group channel not a grouo folder if thats what you mean?
Never expanded a group channel so im.not sure what you mean
Im.adding a new group channel and the grabs show the issue of heirachy not allowing reordering and output
Hth

I am sorry to have expressed myself unclearly.
On the first picture the entry for “Groups” in the dialog is collapsed,
grafik
you need to click the triangle to unfold it.

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