Alt+k onscreen keyboard does not work anymore?

I have a VST applied to the midi track and I press alt+k and I click or press the keys on the onscreen keyboard and no sound comes out my speakers??? What? It used to work 100%.

If I manually open the “Matrix Edit”, I don’t know why we dont’ call it the “Matrix Edit” anymore, and I draw in notes, it 100% plays sounds, so its not a configuration problems. So what the entire cotton pickin hell is going on?

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Fungames

The MIDI track “playing sounds” just means the MIDI output is routing to the VST input. Do you have the input to the MIDI track set to “all MIDI inputs?”

Yes I do, it still does not work.

The daw does not see that I am clicking or pressing 23 or qwe. No midi read out in the indicator.

I rarely use the on-screen keyboard, but when I do, it’s the bottom row (zxcv, etc) keys.

I think there’s a wee “change layout” button… I’ll have to look at that.

EDIT, indeed - you’re using the alt layout.

Not sure what could be causing that. Works as expected over here on C14.0.20 on MacOS 15.4.1.

Okay, also, when I switch to using my piano as the controller, cubase receives the data, but the VST instrument track does nothing with it.

However, if I create a basic midi track, not an instrument track and use my piano as the controller - Cubase receives the data and the track does stuff with it.? - Meaning it takes in the notes and highlights the volume in the track inspector.

The VST instrument - does not. In my midi devices setup - I have all midi channels selected. I have midi through off on both the fa06 and cubase preferences. I tried with midi through set to off but my sounds would double mic - create layering 2x at once.

This used to work out of the box, I have no idea what is going on tbh. lol

Does just a standard VSTi instrument track with “all MIDI inputs” not work either? You’ve verified that midi parts play, so your audio is routing properly, but you’re saying you see midi activity but no sounds on the VSTi? Are you sure you’re sending the right MIDI channel to the VSTi?

Maybe a screen shot?

I turned midi thru back on and its no longer double mic’ing, I have no idea idea what was going on, maybe my workstation editor was bugging it.

OK, so that’s back to your external keyboard then. Not sure I’m following, but are you back up and running now?

Turned that off, its not working again, give me a minute lmao.

I literally have no idea what is going on, nothing is making sense. Spending hours on this every day for years, and can never get it to work - due to windows updates which I usually turn off until 2 years after EoL because they always mess my music production up.

Like, I’m still trying to piece this dogwater together, I will get back to, nothing works and then everything works, and then nothing works and I literally change 0 settings LOL.

If “MIDI through” is an option, I’m guessing you’re using 5-pin DIN midi cables then? Between the on-screen keyboard, your midi tracks, and your external keyboard I’m getting confused myself :slight_smile:

Have you turned the monitor on for the vsti track?

it does not seem I can run the vst with the controller without midi thru on??

However, having to turn midi thru on and off in the edit>preferences panel of cubase, anytime I want to record instruments with VSTs using my controller, is a real pain in the butt!

It’s weird, because this was so easy to setup and get working a few years ago. Not sure what is going on.

If I do not turn midi thru off, my fa06 will double mic - as that is what it does with midi thru on - its already off on the fa-06, and off on the edit>preferences Midi Thru Active(unchecked), which allows me to record and make music with my fa06 within cubase, but if I want to introduce a keyboard controller, like reason rack extension - apparently I need midi thru in cubase preferences, which screws up my whole workflow, if I want to record an fa06 sound with record enabled - it double mics due to midi thru being on in program preferences, and I am not going to turn that on or off everytime I want to switch whether I am using a VST or an external board, LOL.

Bump.

Hi,

I believe, you mean the Key Editor, right?

This is the important question… Is the MIDI Input set to the All MIDI Inputs, please? Is the MIDI Input Channel set to Any or 1, please?

(Edit)

Again, without screenshots it’s a bit confusion confusing. When you first Brought up MIDI through it was in regard to your external keyboard, presumably to make that trigger the onscreen keyboard or something - I had a hard time following what the actual issue was., but now I see what you’re saying.

Yes, to play a VSTi “live” via MIDI you need Cubase preferences Midi Thru Active on (but not to just record). Turning it off would be for recording the MIDI from an external keyboard where you’re already monitoring audio from the keyboard itself (or its audio outs, etc). In general, for a controller-only keyboard, you would keep Midi Thru Active enabled.

I don’t know what “double-mic” means - if you’re hearing “double notes” from the keyboard itself (not knowing how you have the audio configured) it is indeed because you’ve got Midi Thru Active enabled, and you hear the key pressed on the keyboard itself, and then again from the VST echoing midi back out to it (depending on how your MIDI routing is configured). Your FA06 has some manner of “local switch” to prevent this.

I think the “good news” here is that nothing is actually “wrong.” You just need to spend some time with your configuration and even write-out what it is you want to do. It sounds like you have audio-out of the FA06 directly to some kind of amp, rather than through your audio interface mixed/controlled through Cubase, but I don’t know. This is why I was asking for screenshots.

I would take it really simple and just create a single VSTi track with midi in from your external keyboard and/or the on-screen to make sure you limit routing issues. To get effective help from folks here you’re going to need to be more specific on exactly what your overall configuration is like.

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I need local switch on most of the time, because I am using the fa06 as the sound engine. Other times I need it off, in which I switch to daw control mode.

Yes, double playing the sound, same thing. But, even if I had another controller, like the on screen keyboard or external controller, it won’t matter, because I would have to go edit preferences to check midi thru active every time I wanted to use it. I don’t remember it being like this… or this difficult to setup a hybrid workflow, having to toggle that seems insane, they must have a setting somewhere I am missing.

And then if I want to record, the fa06 with local switch on (using it as the sound engine) - I have to go back to edit>preferences and make sure midi thru active is off again.

Real pain, I don’t get it, I don’t remember it being like this.

I’ll check more when I get back, maybe the fa06 has midi thru on you can apply while in “daw control” mode, not just globally. Daw control mode already has local switch “off” and switching it to “on” only plays which sound you have selected in the background behind the “daw control” layer - not sure why because it did not used to behave like this iirc.

Flipping through the studio set ch. 1-16 on the fa06 while in DAW control mode, does not change which sound is selected or playing. Rightly so. Though, not sure why there is a local switch option in that mode, if you can’t even select sounds in daw control mode lol.

Not sure it would help to have a midi through option on the board while in Daw control mode, and I doubt that option is available in daw control only, not as a global parameter. But it should be, literally every external multitimbral 16 part synth lets you choose whether or not midi thru is on or not in multitimbral mode, not just globally. Tho, I’m not at the board right now and I can’t remember 100% if it will let me or if it will even matter when using the device as a controller? :person_shrugging:

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