My point is how viable it will be to port across existing applications and plugins, or how well existing software we run on Rosetta 2. And yes, people will be try to run a DAW across that, you can guarantee it.
For those apps currently utllising AVX there will need to be equivalents in software to emulate or translate them to run on ARM CPUs during the short/mid-term. This is why i presume the support will be there off the bat with an ARM equipped Mac.
I guess it’s either going to fall on third party devs, Apple themselves, or creators of frameworks to put this into place. But that’s only a small example of other factors that may affect audio users.
I pulled AVX from the air as an example because it excluded some older Mac Pro users from using new plugins such as Massive X etc. Which was significant.
Good point. But it does give me hope. Especially considering Logic probably still has remnant code left over from Emagic.
Fingers Crossed.
Or maybe I’ll be nursing this 2014 Macbook Pro until the last bolt falls off.
I’m getting pretty tired of Apple’s hyperbolic os “upgrades” over the past 6 or 7 years.
I agree too to the many people before me here. We all experienced the pain Rosetta 1 was.
For example my current project is supporting a Mackie C4. The C4 had a software called Commander Software, with which you could design and layout your encoders from the C4. This software for Mac was Rosetta software, that after Snow Leopard does not work anymore. This is a huge loss for every C4 owner with a Mac. I will not blame Apple alone for it, because Apple announced this more than a year before it happened, so there was enough time for developers to create a Intel version and it was a easy process with the provided tools that Apple offered at the time.
BUT there where countless programs that did not maked it into that process, especially on the music front.
And i think this will happen again with ARM and to answer the initial question, it will not be bad for Cubase in general, but for sure bad on the long run.
As there will be 3rd party stuff, that will not work anymore and probably/mostly never will again. And what is a DAW worth, if it loses many plugins that have worked before? I think the answer can everybody find on their own.
I’m an amateur musician but a professional software developer. I’m not worried at all about about M1, I’m worried about Intel. Once Cubase and WaveLab get a taste of this hyper-efficient silicon, the Intel versions will not be able to keep up. Steinberg will be faced with a markedly better performer that they just cannot match on their Intel offerings.
The first cut will just be a recompiled version. But once they have that in the bag there is no way the engineering team doesn’t start taking advantage of the more efficient hardware. The M1 version will support more tracks, more instruments, more filters, etc., not to mention what ever cool new things they can figure out to do with machine learning cores. Intel’s blackholes of processing overhead will be embarrassing.
There will be awkward times ahead for Steinberg marketing team when their engineering team finally convinces them of this fact, and they will, they had better. LogicPro and the others are not going to wait.
Yamaha/Steinberg please do not hold the M1 implementation back for fear of offending the Intel crowd. You need to jump in now before Apple starts shipping big machines next year. Don’t offend us with a Rosetta version, use the native M1 instruction set.
MacBook Air (with no fan) is just what I need in a small recording studio. My big XEON based furnace has to be in the other room just so you don’t hear the jet engine cooling fans in the background.
Also, Yamaha/Steinberg, please do not wait any longer on Thunderbolt/USB4. We need affordable high channel count interfaces.
Have had mine M1 Air for some time now. It is a good as laptop. But it does not match stationary. For sure apple has silicons that have other objectives in the pipe. A good video about the new macs is M1 Vs INTEL MAC: Video Render SHOWDOWN - YouTube. M1 has some really good benchmarks result. Maybe little too good to be true. Some parts are using hardware accelerators that are not available on compared devices. Im less worried now than before I got one. Apple has a good chance to at least compete with AMD’s threadrippers. But it seems to be problematic with drivers. To get RME drivers to work you need to use a security flaw in Big Sur recovery mode. With that you can get the thunderbolt audio cards to work. Unfortunately it is also needed for the USB drivers. So it will be a much more limited options for audio solutions in mac world.
