I found a post from May 2023 saying that Dorico will support ARA, but there is no mention of this in version 6. I wonder if it will be supported quietly? I’m a rare person, and I use singing software such as AceStudio as a DAW with Dorico, and the type of songs I play are classical, so tempo changes are very important, so I’m really hoping for ARA support!
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Steinberg has never said they would support ARA with Dorico.
Thank you for your advice. For me, ARA is not important, but I want to improve the lack of synchronization when running singing software such as AceStudio with Dorico. Currently, when a tempo change is required, the tempo change information must be entered into Dorico and the singing software separately. And it is difficult to input smooth tempo changes such as ritardandos into the singing software. It is easy to input in Dorico! I want it to be synchronized!
You might say I should use a regular DAW, but for me I want to work in Dorico because it’s the best music software!
Katsuyoshi
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Syncing tempo changes with VST is not yet implemented.
Thank you for your advice. I’m just an amateur, but I think it would be better to send a tempo change rather than a synchronization, but I think it depends on the app whether the plug-in software can receive that. Is that difficult?
Katsuyoshi
Same here! I am using the Synthesizer V vocal plugin and experiencing the same difficulties. Also, the channel splitting of the multitrack plugin doesn’t always work correctly (meaning that I’ve had a second set of the tracks playing back out of nowhere that didn’t react neither to volume adjustment, muting nor even completely deleting the tracks and the plugin). But this may be a problem on the plugin’s part entirely. All in all, some kind of help in synchronizing ritardandos and such would go a long way as a time saver. Thank you for bringing this up! 
I also used synthesizer V, but AceStudio may be a little better for editing and lyric input. Considering that there are 80 voice libraries, the high price of AceStudio is inevitable. However, it seems that SynthesizerV is better for expressive typing! But it’s great that computers can now sing.
Katsuyoshi
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Yes, I think so, too! I checked (though not very recently) and found the newer voicebanks of SynthV better suited for my music. Also, I like that I don’t have to be online to use it, and I very much dislike subscription models, so SynthV it was/is.
Anyhow, it’s amazing what both of these apps can do! If it wasn’t for them – and for Dorico – I would never have a chance to turn my compositions into real music.
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Allow me to jump in and say what a wonderful combination Dorico and Synthesizer V pro 2 could make in the creation and production of vocal music.
From songs to full Opera this combination could be heaven and break one of the last barrier… the integration of life like vocals in our scores.
Unfortunately the lack of ARA support in Dorico prevents all complex tempo changes to be passed directly and safely to Synthesizer V Pro 2, as have been pointed out in this thread.
This could truly be a game changer and a serious new venue for Dorico to thrive in !!
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I’m sure ARA is a ton of work to implement. On the other hand, having that capability would help me so much when working with Synth V for mockups, since I often write with a lot of rits and accels. Though I’ve seen some resourceful approaches to dealing with such, for Synth V, here on the forum, they require consistently jumping through a number of hoops, and those approaches can be finicky and unreliable. Sounds like they work sometimes, but don’t work other times.
Even when such an approach is usable, one loses a lot of flexibility. If changes are made to the tempo gradations, or tempos, number of bars or beats per bar, one often has to go back to square (grid?) one and restart the process.
TLDR; ARA would greatly improve the ability to go from Dorico to a DAW that support ARA. Any time I can spend less time wrestling with software and more time working creatively with music is a big plus for me.
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new to playing around with SynthV pro2. The lack of ARA support in Dorico to enable gradual tempo changes is perhaps the biggest single issue here. Of course one might hope that SynthV themselves might directly allow drawing of tempo ramps into their app but in the meantime, it’s either a fiddly workaround or export or Cubase (which I’d prefer not to have to do)
… and dynamics. Unless you’ve figured it out, you also need to draw dynamic curves in SynthV as well.
yes – but drawing dynamic curves is more straightforward – after all I’m used to having to do this all the time in the Dorico key editor anyway with conventional libraries.
A worthwhile workaround method is presented by John Barron in this video: Make Dorico Sing | Discover Dorico. Though the video references a beta version of Synth V that made music XML import possible, that feature is now an available option in the current release version of Synth V Studio 2 Pro (2.2.0):
- Added project import support for MusicXML formats (.mxl, .xml, .musicxml).
I experimented with ACE Studio’s Bridge 2 feature a while back. I remember it worked handled Dorico tempo changes well, though I didn’t take the time to put it through its paces.
As you work with Synth V, here are some tips to help you get your phonemes sounding right:
although John’s video does not apply to the choirs and is also out of date, I am now planning to watch it tomorrow as I should pick up some tips
Not sure how ‘out of date’ the information is. If anything, the process should take one or two less steps with the release version. You won’t have to download and install the beta.
I’ll be interested for any insights you gain about integration with Synth V’s new choirs.
I meant the SynthV version he used is out of date – with luck much of the advice will still hold but I’ll return after I’ve had a chance to watch it.