B naturals in the key of Gb???!!!

[NYFC]

Hi,

I’m resetting a piano piece of mine written in key of Gb major. Of the several thousand notes in the piece, more than a few are C flats. When inputing notes from a midi keyboard, Dorico writes C flats as B naturals even though I’m using the Gb major key signature. It’s a bit of a drag having to select notes and respell them. What am I missing? I can’t imagine this is intentional behavior. Thanks!

[MarcLarcher]

Here is what I found in advanced search with +dorico +respell +update

@Daniel at Steinberg

Dorico’s respell commands are designed to maintain the intervallic relationships between the notes in the chord, which is why respelling G#-C-D# using the note name above gives you Ab-Dbb-Eb.

We have the notion of spelling tables in the guts of Dorico, and in due course I fully expect that we will be able to expose a fixed spelling table for each key that will allow you to get exactly the results you want. I’m not yet sure exactly what we will end up with in the 1.0.10 or 1.0.20 updates in this area: as I have already mentioned elsewhere, we also have an improved implementation of the PS13 spelling algorithm to bring to bear on the problem, which works remarkably well on tonal (even quite chromatic tonal) music. The reason we can’t use PS13 directly to do spelling during input is that it requires both forward and backward context to make its decisions, and we thought it would probably be too weird to have previous notes spontaneously changing spelling as you input future ones. However, it will be possible to select a range of music and use PS13 to improve the enharmonic spelling in a single operation. Again, I’m not sure if we will be able to expose this in either the 1.0.10 or 1.0.20 update, and it might come later, but I can assure you that just because Dorico 1.0 doesn’t have particularly advanced enharmonic spelling functions for MIDI input, that doesn’t mean we haven’t been giving it a great deal of thought already.

This is a problem already known… We are all waiting for the updates

Try and use advanced search before creating new threads, it will help Dorico’s team to focus on writing code !

[NYFC]

I had seen Daniel’s quote and didn’t think it applied to simply inputing single notes in a given key. I wasn’t asking Dorico to respell notes in a chord, I was expecting correct spelling of a diatonic passage with a key signature in force. Oh well, here’s to the updates!

[cantilena]

Don’t forget that you can respell notes immediately after you enter them using Alt+= and Alt± (that is, Alt and equals or Alt and minus)

[Derrek]

Doesn’t calling for (pressing the letter key) C with a Gb key sig major produce a Cb automatically? I think Daniel has mentioned the possibility for input maps in the future that will help notes default to specific spellings.

[dspreadbury]

It does if you simply type the letter name using your computer keyboard, but not if you’re using a MIDI keyboard. This should be much better in the 1.0.10 update, though there is still lots more work for us to do on improving enharmonic spelling in MIDI input beyond the 1.0.10 update as well.