Bar keeps reappearing

I tried changing layout and view, but this didn’t reproduce.
Then, exit > reload, this reproduced.

I can reproduce that on your cut-down version :slight_smile:

Reproduces als when the second flow is deleted , so it’s something in flow 1

Will try to delete some players

Still reproduces when I delete everything but the two last measures

Cut it down even more, still reproduces on this

Only then I thought about Signposts

But removing them didn’t help.

This seems about as minimal as it gets.
onebar.dorico (1.4 MB)

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Thanks a lot for looking into this.
And a relief a reproduces.

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Ok, I’m pretty sure this is an actual bug. It has to do with the 9/8 time sig in the final bar. If I change that to 4/4 (7/8, etc), then I can delete the extra bar and it will stay deleted. No idea why. If you change the final bar to 4/4, delete the extra bar, save it, close and reopen it, change it back to 9/8, fix the dot that was deleted off the notes, then the extra bar seems to stay deleted.

Maybe a dev can chime in why that would happen?

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Sorry I can’t find find the root cause of the problem. Hopefully someone else can at the onebar project helps them.

Did try one thing extra: exported the file to MusicXml and imported the in a new file, hoping the xml code would reveal something.
It didn’t, and the resulting file didn’t have the problem …

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I think there should be some extra hidden content there.

If I start with a new document, one bar of 9/8 and leaves it empty, the problem does not appear.

Agreed a dev might help

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I couldn’t find anything hidden. Like you, I cut it down to just a Flute part and it still reproduced. My only thought was maybe it could have been the Cues somehow. In the original file they look like this where the ending handle extends into the bar:

After my 4/4 switch and re-edit, they look like this:

Still, we both tried deleting the cues so I would be surprised if that’s actually it, unless there is a bug that they somehow remained in the calculation even after deleted.

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I wander if the cue in Horn 1 makes a difference.
Shorting that one - seems like fixed it (at least so far)

Does disabling Note Performer help? I can’t reproduce it here

The issue is to do with a player label that has been edited. It’s all a bit technical, so I won’t go into all the details, but normally a player label (indicating a change in condensing) isn’t a real item that is persisted in the flow. However, if you edit it in some way, e.g. change its text or its position, then it does get persisted. Under some circumstances, those items may no longer display (because of other edits to the music) but there may be times when the items are not properly deleted.

Dorico ensures that the flow is long enough to accommodate all the items in the flow. So even though the player label isn’t visible, the flow’s minimum length has to include the position at which the label lives.

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Thanks for looking into this. How do I fix it then?
I can’t seem to find the actual label

Maybe the team could take a littel time to ensure that when #content gets deleted, all things that have to do with it get shredded as well.

I had a case where I duplicated a file that had the correct formatting and deleted all the notes from the score (Ctrl+A, delete), thus practically resetting the file. Or so I believed. When I had input everything and switched to engraving the parts, all kinds of engraving items like system breaks etc. had reappeared. Now, I do understand where this is coming from and why they had not been deleted, but it was still quite surprising (and introduced some overhead of work that I had not anticipated up to that point).

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I’m not completely sure how to fix it. You’d need to put things back into the state that the player label appears again, and reset the properties you’ve set on it, which will have the effect of removing that item from the flow. But I haven’t looked at your original attached project, or indeed the current state of your actual project, so I can’t say what steps you need to take to make that label reappear.

Player labels are a thing for condensed scores only, right?
I’ve checked my 2 full layouts in condensed and can’t find anything.
Condensing and labels can be a little unpredictable in my experience.
So, how do I preside? Can you name the exact staff on condense-state the issue appears in?

Any progress here?

I would need the current version of the project itself to fix it for you, I think.

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