Bathroom/Reverb

Thanx, very good. Do you mean that its not surprisinhg that I hear bathroom? I am not alone in this?
I understand that one needs to listen to the whole track and adjust the reverb and other effects, but its very comon that one starts with soloing the vocals and putting on effects? This thing that I use two reverbs is new, I have tryied to use one reverb earlier.

The fact that the level is important is completely new to me, thanx again!

Just download Valhalla Super Massive!!!
Steinberg reverbs are great for post production use but not lush or warm.

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He owns Seventh Heaven Pro!

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I think it is a good thing to have more than one Reverb.
Valhalla Vintage Verb or “Super Massive” is for sure a useful addition to the Seventh Heaven.

Have you tried “layering reverbs”?
Sometimes one Reverb doesnt give the right sound.
Just check Youtube search with “reverb layering”
I think this can give you some ideas.

The whole reverb thing is much about having some experience and an idea of how to achieve certain sounds - the actual plugin doesnt matter that much.

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I don’t know about bathroom, but this is included in the Bricasti M7 collection

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Don’t worry - I was just making fun! Although there are actually some famous and very good tracks that do use bathroom like rev (delay), so like always you shouldn’t say it sounds always bad, it just depends on your taste or the style you wanna create…
There is nothing wrong with using two reverbs - it might become more complicated though. I was more confused by the tuner in a sends way - doesn’t that make your vocals sound super weird??

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For the bathroom…

Wouldn’t you just start with some type of tiled rectangular room then adjust?

It’s very old. But it has many different types of building materials. I’ll assume there are dozens of other tools like Waves that are similar to this. I’m not sure if there are any good free tools.

What is missing with a bathroom reverb that can’t be achieved here?

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I support those who say don’t fret about/spend too much time on any given track listened to in isolation.

One reason is that what you do to one track will likely change the tone of the other tracks (frequency summations and cancellations).

So you may find after getting the perfect verb for your vocal (for example) in isolation, you find when playing it along with your pads:

  1. The vocal tone is different than when played in isolation, and
  2. The pads tone could also be different than when played in isolation!

I think you said you were a beginner: If so i highly recommend Mike Senior’s “Mixing Secrets for the Small Studio”. Even has a chapter or more on reverb!

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Ha, ha, haaaa!! LOL

Thanx everyone! I read and watch a lot of mixing tutorials on youtube and also do courses. I am maybe to critic. I will post a track so you can hear what I dont like. Its possible I can fix things with a good EQ. I heard Billie Eilich (sory for the spelling) singing, dry mix, and now I am more confident with my singing… I have tried stacking reverbs, I will do more of that.

Bu one often starts with soloing vocal tracks? Then after fixing the vocals you add the instruments and adjust settings?

Yes, its a bit special… It was a experiment. I am a scientist, a organic chemist so I like to do some trial and error.

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Yes, absolutely!

A better workflow would be to split this work into 2 different & distinct phases - corrective work & mixing. In the first you go through everything and fix anything you find that needs fixing - vocal sibilance, hum on guitar tracks, dynamic problems with signal levels - whatever. This is the phase where soloing, muting & otherwise focusing on specific material makes sense. But when you get to the mixing phase it is better to listen in context and not solo Tracks for the reasons folks have given above.

Of course it’s not always a clear distinction. Sometimes you’ll only find a problem while mixing. So you may need to switch hats every so often. But it’s worthwhile to keep in mind which hat you are currently wearing. For me corrective work is a craft, while mixing is more an art.

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Your audience listens to the vocals only in the mix so it doesn’t really matter how they sound solo’ed.
“There’s not a problem that I can’t fix, 'cause I can do it in the mix” were pretty accurate lyrics.

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I am an analytical chemist. I do drug metabolism and PK work by LC/MS/MS. :man_scientist: :test_tube: :alembic:

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I am getting tired, I think there are times where you solo things, and times where you listen to the whole mix. I dont think thats possible to contradict. And you will do this back and forth a few times. I get it. Thanx.

There is nothing wrong with being analytical chemist, but the real science is making new molecules, not? (This is a joke).

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I tried the default settings on the stock plug Revereance and its good! Its not bathroom!