Beaming preference

Is there a way to tell Dorico to separate all beams per beat? Dorico does a lot of beaming across beats (especially for semiquavers or smaller) that amateurs find difficult to read i.e. they can’t tell where the beat is in complex rhythms.

Manually is just a chore on large scores.

Via Notation Options:

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Also, there are some further settings to think about in Notation Options > Beam Grouping.

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So yeah, I went through all of those before writing this post and it’s still not doing what I need. I have a piece in 5/4 with a few passages in 6/4 and Dorico insists on beaming together semiquavers to quavers across beats. There must be a way to tell Dorico to stop beaming and keep all beats separated…

For 5/4 specifically you might want to change the notation option that tells Dorico to group it as [1+1+1+1+1]/4 by default instead of [3+2]/4. There’s no such option for 6/4, but perhaps [1+1+1+1+1+1]/4 will do the trick?

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Nice! How do I do that?

In the Shift+M popover, enter the time signature as e.g. [1+1+1+1+1+1]/4.

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Still not quite working:


As you can see it still insists on beaming certain semiquavers (and some quavers) over the beat…

Can you upload a screenshot of your time signature signpost? Or a project would be even better. Just a small one.

Mind you, I had to hide it for it to show as a sign post…

Interestingly, if I restate the time signature it respells it correctly… But of course I shouldn’t have to.

It looks odd. I’d say there is a reason but I can’t confirm without exploring a file.

Seems to be a bug. I mean, it’s already odd that Dorico doesn’t have an option to separate beats, but that it would reset itself is even weirder…

In any case , there’s nothing to explore in the file. There are no hidden markings, tempo changes or anything. I tried on 3 different versions of Dorico and I got similar results (5 was better than 4). Don’t worry about it for now, I fixed the score manually and I have to deliver it tonight, so there’s that…

Perhaps it’s a bug - but we won’t know until we can either a) reproduce the behaviour, or b) see a project that displays this behaviour. Even an empty project - one with no notation but still with time signatures - can be enough.

Currently, we can do neither.

I’ll give it a go after I finish this… By the way, are you staff?

No, I’m not from Steinberg; just a mere mortal user.

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Is there any way to implement an option to have the 6/4 bar with separate beaming, but beat grouping as a 6/4 (3+3).

Oh dear, I completely forgot to upload the file… :scream:

I can’t remember what project that was. Sorry.

Isn’t that what it does by default? Perhaps I misunderstood…

actually not. By default it does group beats 3 + 3, but then it beams everything according to that, leading to annoying beming groups which you have to manually adjust.
On the other hand, you can use a measure such as [1+1+1+1+1+1]/4 , which will separate the beaming, but then the rhytmic group is not anymore 3+3, all values are messed up because of that