The tap tempo was not discontinued. It can be found in the Transport Bar now. So you should be fine.
We others are unhappy that the non-tapping part was thrown overboard by Steinberg.
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Yes, tap tempo is there , but it doesnât calculate the average tempo of several taping in CUB13 , it shows only the tempo of the last taping, or Am I wrong ?
I also am wondering this âŚ
I have the latest version of cubase on Mac OS (13.0.30), and I canât find any tools that serve me as accurate as the beat calculator. As a sound designer for Radio I use beat calculator on a daily basis. Now Iâve been thrown years back in time calculating beats manually again. None of the features I could find in cubase 13 are accurate. tempo detection nor the tempo tap function are anyway near accurate.
Today I have to know the bpm of this new track Goldy by eels. I need it so I can set the tempo track in order to be able to put accurate delays on the vocal track of my VO. This is what the tempo detection makes of it.
In stead of a fixed value, I get countless different values between 90 and 98 bpm. I donât understand how to be satisfied with a margin of 10%! While other apps like mixed in key have a margin of 1% and most of the time is spot on! Come on Steinberg! You should be able to do better. And if not, please give us back the good old beat calculator.
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i Agree, None of the new tempo tap functions replace the beat calculator or do better job. they really need to bring it back alongside the new tap tempo, cuz it could calculate tempo by range, and none of the new ones do it !!
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Itâs such an odd omission.
The only thing I could think of is the code for the old system was actually a third party solution and the licensing ran out.
Personally for me 13 was not worth the upgrade. Perhaps 13.5 will fix these numerous omissions but I have less and less faith in Steinberg these days to listen to the people who give them money.
Just to be fair with steinberg, they also donât listen to people that donât give them money !!
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I were sure they would bring it back by now !
is it just a plain stubbornness from Steinberg ?
i donât get it !
What was the exact reason why this important elementary function was removed?
I needed this Beat Calculator yesterday again.
But nothing. Catastrophe.
Beat Calculator should be delivered again in a small interim C 13.0.x update
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I think it was a third-party code that SB licensed. When the license ran out, they made their own version.
It has happed a few times over the years.
I know this has been the case for some VST instruments in the past, but functions in the main program?? Sounds far fetched to me. Do you have any examples?
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Actually I do.
I was asking on a Cubase live stream about a feature that they had back in the OS9 days (groove maps? it was a while ago) and he said
âOh yeah, that was from Synchocode (some company name) we donât have the license anymore.â
Large software products are made up of a huge selection of code, some open source (quite a discussion amungt programmers about using 3rd party packackes in their work), some licensed, some APIs from OS providers.
Also, if they have licensed some code from a 3rd party, they might be limited in what features they can provide to replace it - if itâs too close to an existing solution (especially one theyâve recently licensed) then lawyers get involved.
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Sorry to say this⌠but Beat Calculator is just normal mathâŚ
There is no magic or mystical code behind it. 
It wonât have anything to do with license trouble, thatâs complete nonsense.
In case of the old A1 synth (Waldorf) Prologue/Mystic/Spector (VirSyn) and Loopmash vsti (two guys from spain?) it had to do with thirdparty licenses expiring.
Itâs not simple math calculating of beats, you have to also analyse the audio precisely. Pretty sure itâs just too old and non compability code⌠they have been cleaning old code for a while, probably for future proof and taking advance of new techs
I think youâre confusing Beat Calculator with Tempo Detection. The latter needs to analyze audio. Beat Calculator has no analysis whatsoever.
Very unlikely as the code for Beat Calculator is so trivial it cannot be patented. If Steinberg had to license that code from a 3rd party they should be put out of business right here, right now.
Here is what it does:
Read variable "range/selection duration" // this variable is available in Cubase at all times
User input "amount of beats"
Calculate ("amount of beats" * 60) / "range/selection duration"
Output result to dialog
Additionally:
Button âinsert tempo at project startâ
Button âinsert tempo at start of range/selectionâ
That is really all if you strip the tap tempo away from it.
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You are correct, my mistake mixing 2 different things
I understand the rest of your post and your anger, but this sentence is ridiculous.
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By the way, Dom has his own channel, where he keeps a different mood (more âsocialâ??) than the one he has in the channels of Steinberg, where he talks calmly and more seriously. Anyway, I donât give aâŚ
Well, having recently upgraded to C13, I started a new project and went for my trusty Beat Calculator. It wasnât where it should be, so I went to the manual to find it. No mention. I started a nervous sweat. I rushed over here to the forum to see where they had moved it to. Then I found this thread, this Thread of DOOM! They actually went to the trouble of REMOVING it??!! The Beat Calculator and I were BFFs. Why would anyone screw with such a simple yet indispensable tool? Iâm heartbroken! Steinberg, PLEASE put it back!
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did they bring back tempo calculation by range selection to Cubase 14 ?
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