Corpus = body of the guitar
Good starting points for Acoustic Guitar in my experience:
Small condenser mics if you do not want to capture much room and want to place the guitar in a dense mix > looking down on your guitar as a player (right hand guitar) than it is the lower left quarter closer to the neck than the soundhole in a 90 degree angle quite close to the guitar. Works for me.
If the acoustic guitar plays a more prominent role in the mix I would prefer a large condenser mic in a 45 degree angle close by the 12th fret but further away from the guitar.
These are starting points as it all depends on the song and what you need. Of course, choice of preamp, mic, room, plectrum, guitar and so on and so forth play a vital role as well.
You gotta start somewhere
I was talking about clipping the input, if the playing is too hard there will be clipping of the input regardless of the project bitrate in Cubase. Unless I’m mistaken !
Depends on the soundcard input as well as the mic and distance to the mic, etc… But anyway, good thread, good chance to discuss recording real guitars. Nice after a morning working on a composition !
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Morning all. Thank you very much for your input there’s some great info here and I will study it all. Mike
Yeah, which is why I said unless your input equipment is “limited.” I shouldn’t have said “limited to 16bit” as that’s not where that happens, but it was late for me
I only questioned it because of the example of pick vs strum causing and actual input clipping, which wasn’t what I heard in the mp3 he uploaded. All good
Great advice. Except for the last one. Unless we’re talking some cheap super market plywood guitar, any decent instrument can sound excellent. The world is full of great recordings made with off the shelf instruments, and full of awful recordings made with premium guitars. The original poster has a Tanglewood, which are perfectly fine instruments.
In all respect, I think it’s advice that can be more harmful than I think you intended it to be. I’ve met so many people who’ve heard this kind of advice and given up on learning because they’re convinced they have to buy expensive gear instead. Great instruments are always a good investment, but you can make any decent instrument sound amazing if you play and record it well. This is especially true nowadays when the quality of entry level gear is so much higher than just a twenty years ago.
Excellent point!
Nonetheless, each instrument has its limitations and possibilities at the same time. It all depends on what you are looking for. Each instrument comes with its very own specific sound characteristics that will leave an imprint.
A very important aspect that has been left out so far are the endless possibilities to tweak the signal afterwards. Given you have a decent recorded performance and signal you can achieve a lot by tweaking the signal afterwards. Maybe the original recording might just need a few minor tweaks and you want to leave it like that. However, you can also take it from there and go another route and get a completely different result than the original recording sounded before with fx, doubling etc.
What I am trying to say: given the performance and the signal are good this can go a long way along with skilled tweaking. It is not at all a precondition to spend 5k on an acoustic guitar to get outstanding results.
I stand by my words. But do note that I never inferred that a good sounding instrument has to be an expensive one.
I my experience (and I’ve done this for almost 30 years now), the two factors that influence the sound of a recorded instrument the most, is the performer and the instrument. In that order.
I would add “and the engineer” somewhere in there, probably on a sliding scale.
Every time I see that video I’m amazed at how simple they make mic’ing a couple of amps look while playing along with a 40+ year-old drum machine. But along with the raw talent are the engineers (and equipment) behind the production made outside, on a windy day, completely in the open. We’ve veered off course a bit from the OP, but I felt that “don’t forget the engineer” needed to be said too
Fair enough!
OT a bit but I`ve never been able to get a good acoustic guitar sound when Ive recorded myself playing, (Miked only)
I can get one when someone else plays the the same instrument in the same space and other people seem to get my playing to sound OK as well.
Why that is I`ve never found out.
But if you can try and record some one else playing and compare results with your own playing using the the same setup.
Hippo
When I’m recording myself at my home studio I’ve had the same complaint in the past. I finally invested in a pair of Vic France drummer’s cans… not the best build quality but they have the advantage of clamping firmly on your head and rejecting external sound very effectively.
I can monitor my playing while moving around relative to the mic and clearly hear the changes in sound, until I find what I’m looking for. The resulting recorded track is very much what I was expecting as a result.
Thanks for the tip KT66
Just ordered them from amazon
Hippo
Good luck!