Hi - I’m wondering why there are so many great sales on lots of Steinberg software, yet no amazing crossgrade prices exist for moving from Cubase 15 Pro to Nuendo 15?
I have given Steinberg SO much of my money from 1999 on and have TONS of Steinberg software. Why can’t Nuendo 15 be just a $100-200 crossgrade from Cubase 15 Pro? The amount of money I’ve spent is staggering. Why is the crossgrade almost $500 when Nuendo is basically just a “Cubase Plus” ? $480 seems really outrageous, especially when I’ve seen a couple of sales over the past years that have it in the $2-300 range. It seems like the sales are so quick to happen that it doesn’t leave much time for people to find out about them…
Why can’t this be the crossgrade price for Cubase Pro users all the time? It’s not like we haven’t invested HEAVILY into the company, for heaven’s sake.
Is there any way to know when the sales on this will happen?
Best,
A Frustrated but Happy-with-Cubase-but-Want-Nuendo-Affordably, User.
Hi,
just subscribe to Steinberg’s newsletter. Easy. Don’t worry, they will not flood your account with daily nonsense “news” like most other companies.
As far as the cost of the crossgrade goes, I think it is pretty fair considering that you get to keep your Cubase license (pre-Steinberg Licensing, this was not the case). Over 50% off the full Nuendo version price seems like a good deal, especially when it goes all the way back to Cubase 12. Even a better deal if, like previously mentioned, you wait for a sale discount.
Good points, and thanks for the link to the Newsletter. I know that it works out to 50% off or so when you have Cubase, but… Almost $500 seems steep after all the money I’ve/we’ve spent on Cubase over the years. Why would you need to retain your Cubase license when you have Nuendo? Doesn’t it do exactly the same plus more post-production/game audio?
I guess what I should say, is that I wish Steinberg would have more sales more often so I could snag Nuendo for $250-ish. With the price of Cubase and the upgrades, I could stomach $250-ish for Nuendo.
Just out of curiosity, which Nuendo-specific features are you looking to utilize? I only ask because it seems as if there have been many Cubase users who think they need Nuendo, only to find out they really didn’t.
Another thing to consider is that update costs are always going to be higher with Nuendo.
I’m not trying to steer you away from it, just want to make sure you know what you are getting into .
@JohnnyFoster FYI, Steinberg offers a full trial version with no limitations for 60 days. And while you are trying Nuendo, who knows, the end of summer sales might be around the corner. BTW, if you decide to buy Nuendo you can keep everything as is because the trial version is the same like the regular version. You just need to activate the Download Access Code and register Nuendo, that’s all.
I’m probably not a good person to answer this question .
I currently have a Nuendo 14 license which I will update to 15 whenever a sale arrives and wait for Nuendo 16 to be released to activate it .
I have a Cubase Pro 15 license which I am currently using, as well.
I have a Cubase Pro 14 license which I will update to 15 whenever a sale arrives and wait until 16 is released to activate it.
Your comments about how much you have spent over the years are appreciated and understood. However, you are not alone. If the cost of Nuendo is the thing that is swaying you against it’s purchase, you might want to reconsider.
I somewhat got myself into this position prior to the downfall of the eLicenser system. I hated moving my USB-eLicenser between machines. So, multiple licenses, it was. Now I’ve fallen … “AND I CAN’T GET UP”!
I could also go on about my multiple HALion licenses …
All I can say is … purchase what you think is worth it to you. If it’s not worth it, you probably don’t need it.
Curious - why would you need to use both Nuendo and Cubase? And multiple Halion licenses? Again - would be interesting to know why…
I do think the extra features in Nuendo are worth crossgrading for a fee, but not $500 worth of a crossgrade. Of course, this is just my opinion and everyone sees things differently. Hopefully I’ll catch the sale on the crossgrade and get it for $270-ish. I could live with that.
I think I just like that Nuendo has ALL the Cubase Pro in it, and the post-production features are convenient to have, just in case. I’m a DAW and plugin collector/junky, though, and definitely don’t need all the features in things I buy. It’s my OCD thing, to have the latest and greatest, despite the need or practicality. My vice of many.
I don’t, really. Things just kind of happened. Times have changed, and with the Steinberg licensing instead of the hardware dongle eLicenser and my current situation I would probably be fine with just the single Nuendo license. In the past I had two desktop PCs and a laptop that I used regularly, so three USB-eLicensers fit the need. Same thing with the HALion licenses. I now have one Absolute 6, one HALion 7, and one HALion Sonic 7 Collection license .
You do realize that Cubase releases historically come before Nuendo releases and usually are the home of the latest features, right? Also, you will need to update your Cubase license to get those features. Then, a bit later you will need to update your Nuendo license to get those same features at a higher cost. Of course there will always be new things added to Nuendo that don’t appear in Cubase. But, given the whole point of your original post, are you prepared to fork out the cash for two updates? It sounded to me like you already feel like you are being bent over just to pay for the crossgrade.
I completely agree that it’s weird that there hasn’t been any sales on the Cubase Pro to Nuendo 15 crossgrade yet and that the price should be lower overall. If Steinberg doesn’t want your money, I regularly see FULL Nuendo 15 licenses on KnobCloud for lower prices than Steinberg wants for the official crossgrade.
Thanks for the tip - I went to KnobCloud but found only two Nuendo listings, and they were above the Steinberg non-sale crossgrade from Cubase Pro.
Hopefully someone will want to sell their license - I’ll keep checking back. Best case scenario is that Steinberg offers the $279-ish sale price on the crossgrade, and soon!
I went to Nuendo, and I have enjoyed the ongoing stability ever since.
The price difference is minimal, once you move over so while you may have a soft spot for Cubase, I would rather my updates incorporate all of the bug fixes, from what all of the bleeding edge musicians, and producers have already encountered, and don’t forget Steinberg do operate a beta program for advanced users.
Do I need strictly need Nuendo?
Not, in the strictest sense of the meaning but I certainly need a Steinberg DAW, purely for its’ Drum Map, feature since there is nothing else like it, in any other DAW, and now with both Global Tracks and Visibility incorporated, that is baseline functionality for me. To even try programming drums in anything else would be a complete waste of time.
Saying that, however something strange is going on with the Key Editor, at present; it is not allowing me to select all notes at once, no matter what the Part Editing Mode is set to. This would appear to be bug-like behaviour, however there are still some rather sluggish behaviours, going on around zooming whereby dragging with the mouse up or down allows the screen to, move too easily from left to right however, the delay on note selection that haunted version 14 and below is now gone on Windows 11.
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