"Box" staff area without lines inside

I’m looking to create an instrument for pre-recorded audio / sound design / electronics, but with a visible “box” around each system, i.e. only the top and bottom staff lines and nothing in between. ex:

After doing some research on the forum I found a few of the workarounds such as Fred’s 0-line and 1-line percussion instrument library addition, and while that’s handy to have in my toolkit, it’s not quite the same.

In theory I could use the 0-line instrument and add lines manually after the fact, or live without them. But I like the look of that example, especially for when I might add additional text and playing information regarding the playback of the audio track, in a way that feels visually contained (i.e., within a box rather than an open-ended staff).

I also experimented with creating a 2-line instrument to see if I could manually adjust the distance to look like my example, but that wasn’t very successful. What is my best solution here? I’m on Dorico 6.1. Thanks!

With a 2-line percussion grid, with the gap set to 4, you can get something like this:

Maybe not the best solution though!

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Thank you - I think that’s a good idea for a workaround! However after creating a percussion kit with a gap of 4, how do you get the bar lines not to cross? Right now this is as far as I could get it with grid view on:

Here are my percussion kit grid settings (I assume you just created two random percussion instruments):

Also when it comes to adding stuff in between (the dynamics, the arrow), I created dynamics and lines as usual which are forced to either above or below the staff area - and then I manually had to move them into the center within Engrave mode. Is that the correct way to do it? Also is there an ideal way to hide the percussion clef which I don’t need?

Thanks!

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In Engraving Options:

I actually took a factory one! (Congas)

For the dynamics, I’m afraid so. For the lines, there is a property:

Or you can even edit the line properties for a global effect:

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Sorry I missed your last question!

In the clef popover, type invisible.

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Thank you! This looks great and will do for now as a workaround. Bummer the barline adjustment can’t be done locally: the one downside I can imagine in the future is the limitation if I were to write a piece which combines an actual percussion kit on a grid, combined with pre-recorded electronics using this type of staff. At which point I would just have to make a decision between one or the other.

I hope in the future the team can give us more custom/local flexibility on an instrument-level basis. Could be plenty of cases in a modern score where you might want to have various modified staves, but don’t want to globally affect other types of percussion for example. But for now this workaround is great and fast to build. And thank you for helping with the other specifics about the line placement and clef. :ok_hand:

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You could use a tick barline with the following settings in Engrave mode.

Jesper

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That’s interesting, although do I need to enable tick barlines somewhere? When I go to engrave and select a barline, I do not see those options available in the same area:

You have to change a barline to a tick barline first.

Jesper

I think it remembers the settings, so if you change the settings on one barline, changing the next barline to tick will keep those settings.

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Indeed, that worked, and yes the settings would carry over. I wonder is there a way to set an entire instrument/player to use tick barlines? Selecting with the lasso doesn’t appear to include barlines normally, but also selecting everything I thought I could perhaps filter to only barlines but that’s also not possible. So it seems I would have to select each barline manually one at a time.

Indeed, that’s the downside.

Jesper

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No worries. Good to know - depending on the length of the project, if it’s not a huge amount of measures that’s not a big deal.

I also experimented with making all barlines invisible.

I think this will depend on context with the rest of the instruments in the score as to whether or not I feel it’s necessary to see them. But I do like having the option and will play around. Thanks to you both!

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You can also set a default barline under Notation options, but that will not work for a score, of course.

Jesper

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