Bugfix/feature requests for Dorico

[wing]

@am74

-I wonder why such deliberations have been made, I think nobody finds useful going up & down the staff when entering notes and pitches

I assume you mean the behavior chosen where arrows move between staves? I love it, and I find it very useful for inputting multiple parts vertically and moving between my staves quickly. When I’m in MuseScore I find it frustrating that it’s the opposite - my point being, different strokes for different folks, there is no right way apparently. At least now you can change to see which works for you.

@am74

-When I enable the selection tool, the mode changes to selection (mouse pointer selects notes), then, when I want to continue the note input I click on the note-input tool but the selection tool stays enabled, I think this could be a bug, otherwise it is just bothering me every time.

This is normal. The selection tool being ‘off’ allows you to do note input using the mouse, if you prefer that. But many of us, myself included, would rather keep the selection tool active when note input mode is turned on. Unless you are using mouse to input notes, you actually never have to ‘enable the selection tool’ actually, it’s always on by default. So I am not exactly sure what you are expecting to see there.

@am74

-duration-tied notes are not one unique note, speaking of musical execution and interpretation, think of accents, I cannot put an accent, and it is unacceptable that I cannot dot a written note because it is a fake note, being that the real note is some measures before, and what happens is that whatever action I take it scrambles the entire note from the start point. Also other markings have to be tweaked to align with the correct part of the long note after I select them from the palette.

As far as I have ever learned music and as a player myself, I can only think of tied notes as a single unique note, an extended duration. Having a staccato dot or accent marking is, effectively a re-articulation of the note (for a new attack), whether that were to be bowed/plucked/blown. I can’t really think why you would accent in the middle of a tie as I’ve personally never seen that before. I always think of a tie as “hold this note for this value added together” basically – i.e., one extended sustained note.

But like I said, I see there could be some scenarios where a temporary override could be helpful. Also it could be helpful for playback selection, ‘playback from selected note’ ‘P’ would be great to play from anywhere in the tie, especially if it’s a long one spanning several measures such as a string drone.

@am74

-not to mention the frequent audio issues, or the strange playback system that has as last option (with a shortcut) to start playing from a certain point, while the default is starting at the last stop position (who edits the staff knows that after stopping you are going to edit other places in the staff, for example far before the stop point, where you detected something wrong)

You can modify any of this in key commands, as I have. I have turned my spacebar into ‘play from selection’ instead since I prefer that 99% of the time. But there are many different workflow tastes, trust me if it were the way you describe others would complain it’s not the opposite…

[Christian_R]

@am74

However if I put an accent on the second tied note, and then I copy&paste the two notes, that are tied together, I expect that that difference is respected.

Again, there are probably many functionalities that you still ignore. For your example you can use Force Duration, and here two examples for different needs (these are only functionalities examples: their musical significance/correctness may be questioned):

Situation 1 (accent always on the last note of the tie chain): You have a long note that is tied across the barline, with an accent set to the end of the tie chain. Now activate Force duration o (letter o) for that note, and you can copy and paste your tie chain on another beat and the accent stays always on the last note of the tie chain:

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Situation 2 (accent stays on “the third quarter relative position into your tie chain”) : you have a long note that is tied across the barline, with Force Duration activated for that Note (tie chain). Now you put, with the caret positioned on the third quarter of your tie chain, an accent as Playing Technique (that you can easily define). You can copy and paste your tie chain in any rhythmic position, and the accent will stay on “the third quarter relative position into your tie chain” and Dorico takes care of the groupings and ties:

[am74]

Thank you all for the response.
As I input more notes I find new bugs and quirkness.
I got the discount so it is not big deal, I think the Dorico license is also good for me in case someone handles me files in Dorico format.
Good evening.
Best regards

[kenneth_gaw]

This is not the default behavour of Dorico, but if you force the duration of the two tied notes they will stay that way wherever you paste them.

[klafkid]

@am74

I noticed that the caret does not pass to the next instrumenst in that case yet. Only the note input does. It is not as expected. First times I used the note input system I was tricked into believing the instrument I was entering the notes for was still the one the caret was on. This could be a bug.

It sounds to me like you are entering notes with the mouse, and then the notes are too high or too low and end up on the different staff? Is this correct?
In General in Dorico it’s better to enter with the keyboard.

[YourMusic.Pro]

@am74

As I input more notes I find new bugs and quirkness.

This sounds like a good plan going forward, get to know the program better, understand the concepts behind it, learn to use all available tools and then come back here if there’s any remaining questions or suggestions.
Have fun!

Benji