Bugs in Dorico 6.0.20: Flow Heading Override affecting other flows on same page


My first flow is so short that the second flow is starting on page 1 as well. I need extra space below my first flow heading only. So tried the new flow heading override in Dorico 6.0.20, selecting the first flow (“small intervals”) and increased the bottom margin (exaggerated for this demonstration).

As you see, while the first header is as expected now, the header position of the second flow remained fixed in place, to the point that it is now even overlapping with the music in the first flow. One would expect it to move down as well (as its music does).

Side note: There is also a second bug. If you try to use the little arrows next to the “35mm” to increase the number, quite often the number starts refusing to move up further.

Do you have an override on this page, Matthias? Flow headings will not move once you have an overridden page. (Look for the red flash in the top corner of the page in the Pages panel in Engrave mode.)

Indeed, I do have a page override. I added a big title to the top of the first page.

So the right workflow order should then be to do the flow title adjustments first, and then add the page title at the end?

This seems to be an unfortunate programming design choice in Dorico. As a user, it feels like the flow titles are subelements of the blue music frame (since without overrides the flow titles move when I adjust the blue music frame), not fixed elements on the page. Therefore, from a programming perspective, maybe the vertical flow title positions should rather be relative to the top of the blue music frame, and not an absolute position on the page (as it appears to be); this way, I would not have run into this problem.

The current design also implies that in order to make vertical space adjustments now, I either have to move title elements manually (easily leading to inconsistent vertical spacing), or remove the overrides (which would force me to create the page title from scratch). Not ideal.

Either way, please do fix the much smaller issue with the error buttons.

If you want to show a big title at the top of the page, design an appropriate page template with the title that looks the way you want it to, and apply that. (Probably you can modify the First page template to look the way you want it to.) Don’t override pages unnecessarily: use page templates and everything will go more smoothly.

If you run into a problem with not being able to increment or decrement the value of the measurement spin boxes in the dialog, try holding Shift and clicking the paddles, or indeed just typing the value you want. (There’s a boring technical reason why it’s not always possible to increment or decrement the value, due to a limitation in the underlying UI framework that Dorico uses. If it were practical for us to fix this, we would do so.)

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Thanks for your quick responses. I will look into using page templates instead.