Cadenzas question

I’m trying to notate the screen grab attached from an old Finale file. In Finale this was done by creating a larger measure (in this case 15/4), entering the notes, then changing “time signature for display” back to 4/4. I can find no equivalent hack in Dorico for an opening measure where I wish it to show as 4/4, not 15/4, and look like a proper cadenza/arpeggio.

After perusing the forum most of the afternoon, I haven’t found anything that is helpful when it comes to cadenzas. This is a critical component of music notation, so I can’t believe Steinberg hasn’t planned this into the software. Must be an answer I’m missing.

Cadenzas are easily done in Dorico using hidden tuplets. Dorico is very good with nested tuplets.
Here, a 15:4q tuplet will handle all the music of that 4/4 bar. If you need playback, you’ll have to tweak it accordingly.

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A quick forum search gives about 100 results for cadenza#dorico.

I agree with @MarcLarcher about using a 15:4q tuplet in general.

However in this instance, if all other players are silent in this bar, you could equally use a shift-M 4/4,15 pick-up and hide the time signature.

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Another simple and quick option could be adding a new bar of a hidden 11/4 (or 22/8) time signature right next to the bar where you have the D9 chord. Then, click on the barline before the 11/4 time signature and hit delete.

Yes I know this method. But when I put I on my mucky boots and try to do this it changes the initial time signature to 15/4. However, I found that just entering the notes in 4/4, deleting the barlines, resizing and beaming the 1/8 notes displayed exactly what I wanted. Using hidden tuplets is possibly better for more complex cadenzas, but this worked for me today.

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Hidden tuplets actually solve all the problems happening in all other staves. That’s why it’s my favorite solution. YMMV :wink:

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