Cantai with Portuguese text (using Spanish and Latin)

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Hi all!

Firstly, I though about post in the topic Cantai: singing your Dorico files. Some results , but may can be better and more collaborative a new topic (well, is my fist topic, lol), since have a certain “direction” (like about purchase or not Cantai for also use in Portuguese, and other questions). And, I can post here other eventual questions, trials and “discoveries” (overall, phonetical, maybe).

I recently (yesterday :grin:) purchased Cantai, aware of the three disponible languages (that I eventually use). Since I’m Brazilian and compose/arrange overall in Portuguese, I considered Latin and Spanish as referencial possibilities for my vocal works and studies. So, as example (again, I guess that can be collaborative for who use Portuguese - Brazilian and European), I’m attaching as example an excerpt of my arrangement (study) for SATB by the song Você ( Roberto Menescal / Ronaldo Bôscoli), for phonetical references:

Excerpts:

In Spanish:

In Latin:

Note: I just changed the playback template and choose the individual voices. But, some phonetical workarounds (need more tests/attempts) can be possible. This is the first “test”. May something in audio rendering happened…

To consider (and phonetically expected):

  • The Portuguese que/qui sounds “kue/kui” in Latin (You can use “ke/ki” workaround), but works in Spanish;
  • The Portuguese (E)xi (as from “exilado”) - and, probably other similar words - sounds “ekzi” in Latin and Spanish (You can use “zi” workaround). Below, Exilado and Ezilado[1]:
  • The Portuguese “ce” (from “você” and “entardeceu”) sound “tche/che”, but works in Spanish;
  • The Spanish “j” sounds “r”;
  • The Portuguese “jo” (from "beijo") sounds “go” in Latin and “ho” in Spanish;
  • The Portuguese “nhã” (from *“manhã”) sounds “nã” twice. The “double r” (from "sorrindo") also sound “one r” twice.

Finally, may can sounds a little as a non-Portuguese first language speaker (it was expected), but, is USEFUL and FUNCTIONAL for my use purposes (I added in [EDIT] other comparison, whit a real choir) .

(…) Maybe, in the future, an update in Portuguese… who knows! :winking_face_with_tongue:

[EDIT] More references from except (my composition):

Original, with students choir (and accompanist piano):

Cantai choir using Spanish:

Cantai choir using Latin:

I hope my post can help in some way!

  1. From the composition added in [EDIT] ↩︎

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More references. Same "Você" arrangement, with some workarounds, in green (video-score excerpt), using Spanish:

[EDIT] video-correction.

Plus, about phonemes (based in a piano & voice work/study I’m composing):

  • The Portuguese “nhã’” (as in “manhã”) sounds like “nã” twice, so writing “nia” can work, especially in faster passages;
  • Similarly, “lha” (as in “malha”) sounds like “la”, so writing “lia” can work, especially in faster passages;
  • The Portuguese “s” sounds like “ss”… so just use “z,” or “Roza” instead of “Rosa” (just following the phonetics… evidently);
  • “Al” as in “Mal,” has a pronounced “l” (for Brazilian Portuguese), so writing, for example, “Mau” might sound more natural.