CC 11 Overdubbing Jittery - Cubase Pro 14

I have been trying to practice overdubbing of CC values - namely CC 11, expression) in Cubase Pro 14.

As I input the the curves the playback becomes broken-up and ‘jittery’ sounding. It’s a bit less so when I playback after the CC has been overlaid, but not as smooth as the original sound.

Does anyone know what might be happening please? Thanks for any help.

Hi,

Switch the Type of New Controller in the Controller lane from the Ramp to Step, please.

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Thank you Martin, that is very helpful.

Can I ask…should the controller type always be set to ‘step’ for overdubbing? Is it better to leave it there generally?

Hi,

If this option is set to Ramp, Cubase reduces recorded MIDI data to show the curves instead of the individual messages. This is easier for the editing, you can manipulate with the curve easy. But the resolution of the curve is lower in comparison to the individual messages. So if you need high resulotion, use always the Step setting (already while recording).

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lower , me thinks?

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Just making sure you know that you can’t “overdub” on top of existing CC messages. You need to delete what’s there otherwise Cubase will “merge” both passes resulting in the jitter you’re describing.

Or maybe set the Replace option to Controller.

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Hi,

Fixed, thank you.

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Hi,

You can, as mentioned:

Just be aware, you have to record into the Editor in this case (the Editor has to be in focus, once you are recording), not into the Project window.

Very cool, though I’m not quite figuring out the workflow to replace only the controllers…I keep my midi record mode set to “new parts” typically, or merge, and in both those cases I end up with either midi data on its own part (which conflicts) or midi data in the same region (which conflicts). Midi record mode on “replace” does replace the controllers, but also the midi too which I usually don’t want.

I’m not seeing an impact on that behavior by changing that setting you’ve mentioned, incidentally…

Hi,

Are you sure you are recording in an Editor? Is it in focus? How do you hit the Record? You must not click on the Record button on the Transport Panel. If you do so, the focus goes to the Project window. The best way is to use a Key Command or a hardware Remote Device.

Thanks for your input. I had been deleting the previous CC messages prior to overdubbing new ones, and I had the replace option to ‘controller’ before making any overdubs.

The issue seems to have been fixed for me, and the problem was as @Martin.Jirsak already advised.