This may be my most pedantic question in a while. But I assume the only way to perfectly center fingerings within the circular enclosures when they’re microscopically off center is to export the PDF from Dorico and then tweak in a PDF editor such as Affinity/InDesign?
Haha, great to meet a fellow perfectionist.
@Mats_Frendahl
@jesele That does look perfect but I’m using my own font for fingerings. Which font are you using?
Yes, perhaps a tiny bit to the left for the 1?
Jesper
Aren’t they supposed to be Music fonts? Default is Bravura, I think.
Jesper
Let me send you the PDF. It looks a little too low and too far left in my copy. Thanks for looking into this.
Mats has very kindly shown me via message that it is centered in terms of left and right.
So I’ve taken it into Affinity and moved the circular enclosure down a step which I think has resolved this crisis. Can’t believe this is how I’ve spent my Sunday. But I can’t deny it’s more satisfying now that it’s properly centered.
Do you agree?
Left: Original.
Right: Corrected, the circle has been moved down a step.
The right picture looks better.
Jesper
I’m so glad it’s not just me that cares, thank you ![]()
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And seeing them together makes the left more obvious. Like the resolution of a dissonant chord. ![]()
Jesper
Speaking about vertical adjustments;
But luckily, we are not at Sibelius levels,
(Image from their Newsletter, https://www.avid.com/resource-center/sibelius-june-2026-release. They seem to be proud…)
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I had to outline the PDF since I don’t have the fonts, but it will not change the positions and shapes much.
Image 1 shows that the 2 is perfectly centred in the circle. The red vertical guide goes through the circle’s midpoint, as shown by crossing the wite anchor points at the top and bottom. The line cuts the 1 dead centre.
Image 2 shows that the guide (unchanged, still the same as in image 1) cuts right through the midpoints of the enclosure box of the note head.
I think it’s all good, and what you see on screen can be a misinterpretation of how the GPU renders the internal “image” to the screen’s resolution. I think you are on the safe side. You might experience a “shift” on a laser printout too, as the laser needs to adjust to its resolution and “dpi”, but it should not be too bad. What you can do is print to PDF, then magnify so that only the note head and (1) are shown in Acrobat and print “current view”. This will output it at extreme magnification. Then use a ruler to draw guides on the left and right sides of the note head, calculate the midpoint between them, and draw a vertical line there. It should cross the top and bottom “turning points” and cut the 1 in half.
If you hadn’t revealed that the one to the right was the improved one, I would have thought it was the left one. It looks more balanced to me.
I guess I need some eye-training.
I cannot decide which I like the most, but I would recommend reviewing all numbers used and selecting the most extreme and adjusting it to perfection, then aligning the remaining numbers to the same baseline, no matter how bad they will look.
@sammys, since you are using your own font for fingerings, I might suggest creating a variant that has the circle as part of the glyph that can be assigned to the fingering style. That way you have complete control without the fiddling around.
— Jim
@jaskarbong That’s a good idea. How would I do that, some sort of app for editing fonts?










