Change the font for tuplets, bar number and instrument name

Hello everyone,

I have been using Dorico for a month now and so far the experience has been very good.
I am currently editing a piano score and, although I have been able to change the font for most of the parameters, I am still not able to change the bar number, the tuplet number, nor the instrument name font.

I have tried to change the default text to the font I want (Futura Ltb) and when I go to Library>Font styles and look at each of the categories everything seems to be in order, but in the score I still have the original font.

I have already looked for videos in Youtube, I have read similar cases in the forum, but I don’t know why it doesn’t work for me.

I hope not to bother.

I attach the pictures so you can see what I mean.

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Often it is the Paragraph style, rather than the Font one wants to change in these situations.

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Welcome to the forum, Isaac.

The change you’ve made in the Preferences dialog for the Default text font family only affects newly-created projects, i.e. it’s not a retrospective setting. You’ll need to change the Default Text Font font style in Library > Font Styles and the Default text paragraph style in Library > Paragraph Styles in your existing project.

In order to change the font for the tuplet number, you need to go to the Tuplets page of Library > Engraving Options and set Tuplet digit style to Plain font. Then you can use Library > Font Styles to edit the Tuplet Plain Font font style, and you’ll see those changes reflected in your score.

Bar numbers and staff labels can both be changed via Library > Paragraph Styles.

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Thanks!! That was very useful!

I followed the directions given above and was not able to change the tuplet font. The only way I found to do this was to set the Engraving option to plain font as described, but then to edit each of the plain tuplet numbers in Library> Music Symbols>Tuplets

You need to edit the Tuplet Plain Font font style, not the Tuplet Font font style.

If the font you want to use for the tuplet digits is not a SMuFL font, then Daniel’s advice above is correct. However, if you want the tuplet digits to use a SMuFL font other than the one selected in Library > Music Fonts, then don’t choose the Plain font engraving option for the Tuplet digit style. Instead, specify the SMuFL font you want for the Tuplet Font font style.

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Thank you @dspreadbury and @johnkprice I tried it again this morning and Daniel’s method worked this time, so I guess I am using the non-SMuFL version of Maestro. However, the result yielded the wrong Maestro numbers for tuplets, so editing each of them in the Library>Music Symbols does seem necessary.

If you use the Plain font option, Dorico expects to find the numerals in the standard code points for those characters, i.e. the same place they are found in a regular text font when you type the number keys on your keyboard.

@dspreadbury I see. So perhaps using the SMuFL Maestro font would avoid having to edit the symbols themselves.

Yes, that is rather the point of SMuFL, of course…

It is certainly time that I change out the old Maestro font for Finale Maestro, or whatever it’s called. It wasn’t available when I first started with Dorico.

To clarify a few things:

Dorico can either use a SMuFL font, or a ‘plain’ text font for Tuplet numerals, configured in Engraving Options. If you use a plain text font, then Dorico uses the standard 1 to 9 numerals. (So you could use any italic font, for example.)

Maestro, the old Finale font uses the standard numeral font slots for time signatures. The glyphs for tuplet numbers are all over the place. So you can’t use that in either case; but you could use Finale Maestro as a SMuFL font.

Thanks, @benwiggy That is the way I understood it from the previous discussion. My temporary solution to use the Maestro tuplet numbers as a plain text font by editing each of the plain tuplet numbers in the Music Symbols editor works well.

If you really want to continue with the non-SMuFL Maestro, you probably could change where Dorico is looking for the tuplet glyphs with a doricolib file. I haven’t actually tried it, but just copy and paste from the factory glyphs.xml file, and change the codePoint entry to wherever that glyph exists in Maestro. Might need to change isSmufl to false too.

Once done, it would be the default for all new projects, and you could bring it into older projects with the Library Manager. Just using the SMuFL version of Finale Maestro seems easier though …

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Thanks, @FredGUnn Haven’t ventured under the hood yet. I will probably switch over to Finale Maestro after I finish this latest project.

Did all that. The changes were not reflected in my score.
Screenshot 2024-09-13 at 4.19.15 PM

EDIT I was able to get this by re-opening the font library and after making my selection, taking the radical step this time of clicking the OK button.

I also have found that it tends to help.