Change Tuplets duration

[ObiwanKenobi]

Hello friends,

I’d like to change the notation for these tuplets to sextuplets with a dotted minim instead dotted crotchet (which is easier to read when performing with an orchestra). Is there a way to do this without having to retype each triplet? Thanks in advance.

[Vadian]

Not really an answer (I fear that you have to retype the music) but I’d like to point out that sextuplets can or even will be emphasized as 3 groups of two notes rather than as 2 groups of three.

[ObiwanKenobi]

@Vadian

but I’d like to point out that sextuplets can or even will be emphasized as 3 groups of two notes rather than as 2 groups of three.

I don’t think so. That is the way chosen by Bärenreiter, and we have two dotted minim by measure, very clear in this particular case (with the tremolos).

[jesele]

With this, turn on insert mode, filter for tuplets, delete the tuplets

Then select these

Enter tuplet 6:4

Turn off insert mode.

Jesper

[Janus]

I think this works…

1. You need to show the tuplet signposts
2. Insert mode ON.
3. Select the notes. Filter>tuplets. Delete.
4. Insert mode OFF
5. Change the note durations to dotted minims (where needed)
6. Insert mode ON
7. Reselect the passage and add the new tuplet 6:4e
8. Insert mode OFF.

[Vadian]

@ObiwanKenobi

I don’t think so.

This is Erlkönig, isn’t it? When I search for music images I see more dotted crotchet editions than dotted minim ones. But never mind…

[ObiwanKenobi]

@Vadian

I see more dotted crotchet editions than dotted minim ones

In Piano edition, yes ; but not at the orchestra. We don’t write the same way for piano or orchestra.

Berlioz Bärenreiter :

And Liszt original edition Forberg 1860

[ObiwanKenobi]

To @Janus

This works only if I convert first all dotted crotchet in quavers.
process is very time consuming ; I can’t see myself doing that for the whole score!

[charles_piano]

@ObiwanKenobi

This works only if I convert first all dotted crotchet in quavers.

I’m not sure why… While @Janus was answering, I was recording a demo — I didn’t post it because it was not necessary anymore, but here it is, just in case:

(Note that Insert Mode is on at the beginning).

[ObiwanKenobi]

@charles_piano

didn’t post it because it was not necessary anymore, but here it is, just in case:

Thank you so much, Charles. As usual, your help proved to be invaluable; it was the “Insert mode” that I hadn’t quite grasped: when to engage it, and when to disengage it. Your video has cleared everything up (even if you’re driving at a speed worthy of Monza).