Chord Symbols - Apply To All Roots

Hi — Thrilled to (almost!) have the new Chord Symbol Appearance features working for me! When I click Apply To All Roots, I get the following mashup of components. Am I missing something here or is there a bug?

Many Thanks!

Josh


Apply To All Roots.dorico (1.4 MB)

How did you get this result, Josh? I opened your project, went to Library > Chord Symbols, selected the one chord symbol that appears in the left-hand list, and clicked Apply to All Roots, and everything looks OK:

Hi Daniel — Thanks for the quick reply, I’m sure you guys are very busy.

So I performed a fresh install of 6.0.0.6026 (and temporarily trashed the earlier install of 6.0 and the old Dorico 5.1.81.2225 app (along with Application Support folders for both). Upon this install, the Apply To All Roots functioned as expected (I had changed the parentheses components).

I then modified the appearance of single height parentheses on another chord [ A7(b9) ] using the Edit Component function instead of selecting an already existing alternative. My understanding is that this will change the appearance of all instances of the component regardless of root, quality, alterations, etc. There seem to be some bugs in this area for me as
the changes don’t consistently stick, the revert arrows don’t seem to function and even after deleting a Chord Symbol appearance altogether, the program seems to remember it and I can’t return to the factory default.

After all this, I tried to use the Apply to All Roots function again on yet another chord symbol, and the jumbled components issue is back.

MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2018)
2.9 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i9
12.7.6 (21H1320)


All Roots 2.dorico (1.4 MB)
Dorico 6.zip (1.4 MB)

You’ve somehow managed to get the root accidental to come before the root, which is throwing off all the positioning after that. I’m not sure how you even did that, but just click the Reset to Factory icon, then reenter that chord and it’s fine. Gif below:

chord

You can hit Apply to All Roots after that if you want.

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Thanks for your reply!

The issue I’m having happens when I try to use ‘Apply to All Roots’ on an A[natural]7(b9b5) Chord Symbol and then select ‘Prev Root’ or ‘Next Root’. That’s when things get weird - including the greyed out accidental for the root (#A instead of A#).

Am I missing something here? I’m confused about the difference between these two sections under Editing chord symbol appearances of the 6.0 Version History doc.

Under “Editing default chord symbol components” it says that global changes to components can be made using an existing component option and the Edit component button. Non-global changes can be made by creating a new component with the Add Component button.

How does the above agree with the next section: “Editing default chord symbol appearances” that discusses editing the entire chord symbol including. “. . . select each component in the editing area in turn: the row of compatible components below the editing area shows alternatives, and you can simply select another component from the row to replace the current one, editing it if necessary, or create a new one.”

How is selecting, editing, or adding components here different than the first example? Isn’t this all part of the same dialog window and why aren’t the results here global if editing existing components?

Imagine you have a chord symbol like Cm7. If you make an edit to the relative positions of the various components within the Cm7 chord symbol, or if you introduce a wholly new (user-defined) component into the chord symbol appearance, that’s an example of the second type of edit. It will, as you might expect, affect all Cm7 chords. However, if you edit the “C”, “m” or “7” component, that’s an example of the first type of edit, and that can have much more widespread effects, e.g. editing the “m” would affect not only Cm7 but any chord that used an “m” (or at least any chord that used an “m” of the same type).

His file has the same superscripted root accidental issue with All Roots that you mentioned here, right?

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Indeed it does.

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Looks like it — thanks

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