Clusters across staves and glissando clusters

Hello, is there a way to notate clusters across multiple staves and also do cluster glissando across multiple or one staff? See added photos of manuscript.

You could create some very wide lines. Not sure about getting the angles correctly, though.

Jesper

Wide curved line:

Thanks, i might just paint it in Adobe Acrobat or something, however i would be welcome for a solution of just the cluster notes across multiple staves (no gliss), as there are quite a lot of these in the work im editing

You can create various cluster notehead sets.

Jesper

I love the last ones! would you be kind and explain how you did those? for the matter any of these? (Also can I do them across multiple staves?)

You can enter chords made of thirds, and hide the ledger lines and the stems:

Then change the noteheads

Brilliant! I love this. Thanks!

If any one of you gentlemen (or gentlewomen) have a solution for the cluster glissandos i would be the most happy editor.

I think I used my own font, but hang on, and I’ll try to make some without.

Jesper

You can set the glissando lines to very thick ones under Engraving Options. Or use regular thick lines attached to noteheads.

Jesper

Using a customised Solid line with (axis aligned) terminal lines, the angles are correct:

Make sure you use the same width for the body as length for the annotation (see a better setting at the end of this post *):

(Edit: ok, is not perfect, but twickable :wink: )

@frantisek.vobecky
(* )Edit2: here a better setting for the annotation, for perfect corners:

Brilliant.

Jesper

The staves keep distancing themselfes, so there is always a room between them. Is there a way to forbid this? However just for this bar with clusters across staves? Or any other similar solution?

You can switch off collision avoidance as a general setting, but I would never recommend to do that!

In my example I just raised the bottom staff a bit in Engrave mode / Staff Spacing.

How did you make the rests grey (not visible in print)? If i select them and clict edit>delete rests they stay unchanged

No, they are not invisible in print: I just activated the color for Implicit Rests (which are automatically generated by Dorico, and you can display them in the desired), just for display. They will print normal black. (You cannot generally “delete” rests in Dorico):

  • If you need to hide some full bar rests so they will not be printed, one method is to select them and set their opacity/alpha, to 0% in the Properties Panel/Common/Colour.

  • The other method, using Remove Rest, instead, is better to be used to make polyphonic music clearer/cleaner, without too much rests floating around. If the bar is empty in the whole score, if you remove the rest, the horizontal spacing shrinks to a minimum, because there is no rest that needs spacing, so Remove Rests is not adequate for this usage.

Is there a way to lock it for example in choir, so it stays always let’s say 3mm between choir staves. Because when i raise it, there is larger space between the choir and strings under the choir.

I don’t think so… What you can do is select all the staves below in the system, and raise until you reach the same spacing.

I see! I didnt think of that… for some reason. Thank you! (i’m quite new to Dorico)

And an important point: if you browse this forum, you’ll see that it’s recommended to make this kind of adjustment at the end of your work, once you know there won’t be any major layout changes left to do!