Collisions

I am having a problem with collisions that I don’t quite understand - can anyone point me in the right direction. I have a reasonably congested full orchestral score. Slurs, hairpins, and dynamic marks frequently collide, even though there seems to space for them. But when I try to move them into clear space in Engrave mode, everything shifts - staff spacing for example - so that they collide again. What am I doing wrong?

Peter,
it might be possible that you have too many too big staves on a page layout that is too small.
Best to check - before manually shifting things around: how does Dorico present your music based on your settings (Layout Options)?
If (in Engrave Mode) you see that your page or your systems are overfull (over 100%): don’t start shifting! instead start changing the Layout options, like Staff (Rastral) size, Page size, Page margins; and have a look again. The aim is a perfect layout without manual overrides.
ps. make sure you have “Signposts” set to “visible”

hi, OK thanks - that makes perfect sense. I knew Staff size was critical, but I clearly underestimated the knock-on effects, when things looked pretty much ok to the eye. I have now reduced the Rastral size so that there is no page filled over 100%. That does seem to have resolved some things. I have moved stuff around though: is it possible to redeem that without making things worse? Thanks so much!

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Hiya,
Good if you can see progress.
There is an unspoken rule, if you have to do many manual adjustments - or if you feel you have to do them: instead try to adjust Layout Options. As an example Vertical Spacing>Inter-system gap
Little adjustments here can bring about wonders..