What Dr. Strangelove just said
99.999% uptime doesn’t refer to the server being up, but the service being available.
damn people find the way to complain about that new system ?
Reading the comments most of them make no sense.
Like one guy willing to keep the dongle (being limited to 1 license) and at the same time complaining that with the new system offers only 2, this is really the most ridiculous nonsense thing I’ve read
I belong to the ones very happy with this announcement :
- first the chances that I’m not connected once in a month to the internet are just 0, it could happen when I’m away road-tripping/hitchhiking abroad, but in that case I’m neither recording nor composing/producing/mixing
- they wrote that their could be a yearly offline license, meaning you’d need to be connected just once a year, which I think is quite feasible
- I often use Cubase + Dorico + Wavelab, so it means now I can score stuff while exporting job queues from large projects that take hours, or master a client’s track ; honestly, people asking for more than 2 licenses where/when were you born ? I mean I was born in 86 so I could in some scenario have been affected by Tchernobyl’s radiation and have grown a secondary brain and arms, but that’s not the case ; I can’t see how I would be using more than 2 computers at the same time, as said in the example above the need for 2 licenses is there either for mobile reasons (recording bands outside of the studio for instance) or multitasking like doing stuff while exporting, but I really don’t see how I’d be able to multitask up to a 3rd thing, I need to be enlightened.
Else you guys are just looking not to pay for an extra license for your colleagues, which in that case is not the same problem as a personal need. I mean I wouldn’t say no to 3-5 licenses but I know I couldn’t physically use more than 2 computers/softwares at the same time so I’m not sure why it would make sense.
People afraid of the servers going offline, I mean most of you were the ones telling us to move to soft licenser (not an option when using multiple Steinberg softwares on multiple computers), which would be subject to the very same problem except now there’s a 30 days span to refresh licenses (which apparently are being refreshed every time you’re connected to the internet, so even if today and tomorrow the servers were to be offline, it’s highly unlikely you wouldn’t have been connected to the internet the past 28 days ; especially since I’m pretty much sure the vast majority of us use 3rd party companies, whether Native Instruments, Slate Digital, Plugin Alliance, etc… that often require updates, thus a connection, so I doubt you guys are never connected to the internet), so I feel hypocrisy here…
Anyway, that and the fact that I now don’t need a hub for my laptop when recording out of the studio, I’m glad Steinberg made the move, big thanks to the team !
(now I just can’t wait for Dorico 4 and Cubase 12, then Wavelab)
nobody wants to see the software pirated - at the very least it makes a mockery of my investment in SB as a company - but I do want UNRESTRICTED and permanent access to MY licence.
It’s 2021 and there are better ways to do it. …I work with companies who’s software is vastly more expensive than SB and they’ve always found ways
The same way as the other companies did when they stopped to unlock their products on my new pc?
Why should I believe you when all other companies so far lied on that point?
It’s not a subscription in any real sense, because there is no subscription payment.
I struggle with each update because it is a lot of money for me 99 €, I put all my money (not a lot but all the same) in this small home studio. I have a 4G connection and I am limited to 100GB which I use up for half a month then I no longer have access to the internet until a new billing cycle. What would I do if I didn’t have the connection? Many of us have invested for years in software which, for lack of a restrictive and binding licensing system, overnight can no longer use ?! How can you change the conditions so abruptly to such an extent?
in that case you’ve totally failed to understand the nature of the problem - glad it gave you a laugh though
I have lots of machines with SB software on …way more than two - and I have more than one dongle. I grab a dongle - a laptop and I’m ready to go.
That doesn’t work nearly as smoothly with the new system - because the amount of ‘activations’ are limited.
Could you show one who approach this differently please?
I have dozens of apps that phone home, and this system seems far more generous in the time offered offline. In fact, I applaud them in the transparency in setting this up and explaining before it goes live.
Of course, I’m from the perspective that it’s a real positive improvement for me, so can’t begin to know how concerning it is from your perspective.
It is one of the worse kept secrets that they will move into a subscription service though, you think they’d just announce it all at once and deal with the complaints in one go, as this new licensing makes much more sense when it’s being adopted to deal with a subscription model in mind. At least to me, it explains better the decisions and thresholds being setup.
yes there is - unless you are giving away the software for free ?
you are confusing a subscription with a recurring payment
You don’t know how smooth or otherwise this will be in practice, because you’ve not seen the new system. At least leave yourself open to the possibility that it might actually work OK, please!
If you already have more than one license on more than one dongle, you’ll have more licenses under the new system (because each single-user license on each of your dongles will allow you to activate on two computers), and it will be easy to activate on a new computer, even if you don’t have access to the currently active computers.
I work mainly in VFX and our systems are heavily firewalled - we won’t allow any phoning home
nope YOU’ve failed to understand it : now you don’t need anymore to grab your dongle (yeah try doing that while exporting, good luck), it just automatically detects the 2 computers using the same software.
Meaning you could technically have 2 computers running Cubase, 2 running Dorico, and 2 running Wavelab at the same time ; now try to explain me how you’re doing 6 tasks at the same time.
hi Daniel
to misquote Rumsfeld - we don’t know what we don’t know.
and it’s a done deal so we have very little option but to wait and see…
Of course it’s not a subscription. Honestly, get a grip.
And that’s a perfect example how things can be done, congratulations!
Why? Because (so far) they offer both, either activation or dongle. As a customer I have choice. Do I want to take the risk that I loose or break my dongle? Well, yes I do. But personally I prefer the dongle over the activation version.
I really don’t quite understand why most IT companies fail to understand the benefits of choice.
so out of 20 laptops how will I know which has an active authorisation ? - write it on a post-it note ? What if those laptops are in use by somebody else…
Maybe the new manager will be simple - but at the ver y least it’s an extra step - and an extra step that needs internet access
what it it’s not me that wants to use it. ?
do I have to give them my mysteinberg sign in details ?
thanks for your input
Licenses are issued to yourself, so that would be against EULA anyway. Something that they correctly would seek to prevent. Hence the 2 machine limit being deemed an acceptable norm.
that’s simple : the one you use connects to the internet and checks in with ID to activate authorisation, so take any of those laptops at any time and just run the software, if it’s not being run on more than one other computer at the same time then whichever laptop you take is active.
I can’t see how you would feel that being more difficult than having to constantly grab the dongle (and take the risk to break it on top of having one less port), which doesn’t allow multitasking (which a lot of us are doing and apparently not you, so I get it’s not your problem, but it was until now -well until early 2022- for most of us)