Hi all. I’ve just started using 3.5, haven’t gotten far yet but it’s beautiful and the updates look very impressive and non-trivial, so kudos to the team!
I sorely needed the condensing feature as I am currently engraving a large opera. I have the 3.0 manual bookmarked and went through the condensing section, and I read, as best I could at this point (I never saw version 3 until a few days ago), the relevant parts of the Dorico 3.5 Version History pdf.
I switched on “Condense divisi and adjacent players” in Layout Options > Players > Condensing. FYI going forward, each string section is split into desks A & B in the handwritten score and the composer wants them to stay that way. Dealing with labelling that well may be another topic sometime but for now you can just see they’re labelled things like “Vn. I I.II” or “Vc. I.II”. But anyway that will come, the problem right now is with condensing being either too much or too little and how to manage it on a finer scale than layout-wide. I left the player panel open in the shots so you can see how these are; the music of each individual player or section was entered on its own.
- Screen shot “undesirable condensing in contrabass”: Here contrabass desk A & B (labelled Contrabass/Cb. I.II) are condensing as are all the string section desks, but at the moment I wish the contrabass weren’t. It’s especially bad to the eye by measure 6 and no better in the second system below. I would like to be able to enforce no condensing while things are in this state, just temporarily. I see instructions on how to make a section condense and I am starting to grasp all the rules and conditions which you can set—this is all amazing—but I don’t see how to override it for just a period of bars or systems. (Obviously it’s early in the engraving, this is not when one makes page turns or condenses, so the systems may not break as they currently are shown. Still, in the end I think it will be necessary in this particular composition to make and un-make condensing here and there.)
I wanted to show a later point where I’d want to return to condensed Cb., then I came across something I did not expect to see…
- Screen shot “no condensing in cellos though they should be”: Look at the contrabass and let’s say the frame break for this page was actually at the third bar of the top system. From that point on it would be great to have the Cb. condensed of course. This is where I would elect to turn off any condensing override.
But then the new weird problem I noticed are the celli here. Both desks of Vc. are showing, not condensed, yet they are completely unison, every last note and rhythm the same. Shouldn’t these be condensed and marked “unis”?? What?
In trying to figure out what is happening here I could think of only one thing, though it isn’t a great or desired reason for keeping a section non-condensed for many pages.
- Screen shot “cellos begin to differ”: Pages later this unison playing in the cellos ends, and I should note that there have been no rests along the way. In this third screen shot, as of the second bar of the top system the cello music is different between the two desks—or technically with desk B’s slur tying the first bar’s last note to the second bar’s new different note and then resting. Here I can understand the non-condensed Vcs (though on looking at it it’s possible I’d want to experiment with condensing them since they could probably go together on one staff). Anyway, could this difference at this point and/or the rest in one desk and not the other be the reason for the heretofore non-condensing section? How do I override that? (FYI later on, after a group cello rest for bars, they do show condensed again.)
I have other ancillary questions (like tuplet bracket behavior) but I hope to start with these. Mountains of thanks!