Hoping someone can help me here, it feels like I’ve found a bug. I use x-live to record 16 channels on my x32 mixer, which saves the condensed tracks as a single multi-channel track.
This 16-channel multi-channel track, when exploded in Reaper properly creates 16 mono tracks.
However, in Cubase 13 Pro, it only expands into 12 mono tracks, and tracks 13, 14, 15, 16 are gone. Those tracks are the vocal mics. Before I convert the multi channel track to mono tracks, I can hear the vocals. Once I convert the multi-channel track into separate mono tracks, the vocals can no longer be heard, as they’re in the now-missing tracks.
is there any chance you can create such a 16 channel file for me with a length of 5 to 10 seconds?
If the file size is too big to be attached here please consider using a hosting service such as DropBox or file.io.
Checked attached. Took me about an hour to figure out how to do this, ended up using Reaper for it. You can expand the file downward and see the 16 tracks (which all open in Reaper), but only goes to 12 when converted in Cubase, cutting off the last four.
The attachment didn’t make it onto the forum. Please try one of the two filehosters I mentioned and send me the download link.
Thanks for your effort, I really appreciate it.
Huh? I thought your x32 records 16channel audio files. I thought you could just record anything (even silence) for 5 seconds and send me the file.
Anyway, let’s stick with the Reaper file for now.
Okay everything I try to send gets blocked, so we’re getting creative here. I’m sending a zipped file containing a word document which contains a text link to the Dropbox URL where the multi-channel file is downloadable. Wow.
The x32 does, yes, but my x32 is physically in a different city from me right now. The multi-track recordings I have are saved on my computer from a past show. I had to figure out how to shorten a 23 minute multi channel clip into a five second one, and export as another multi track… That was the challenging part.
You could try to load your file from the X32 into Reaper and then save the entire file there again using the same method in Reaper that you used for the 8 second file.
Import this new file into Cubase and have a look if that gives you a different result compared to loading the X32 file into Cubase.
This way we could have a look if Reaper “improves” the wave file.
Okay so what it looks like is happening is that for some reason it only works correctly if you ‘split channels’ during the initial import. If you import it with that box unchecked, then go to “Project > Convert > Multi track to Separate Mono Tracks” then only 12 of the 16 are available.
I was under the impression that it shouldn’t matter which order this was done in, as for some reason I was initially seeing the “Split Tracks” result as a stereo file and not the 16 separate mono tracks, which I also don’t understand why and cannot explain.
Yeah, the tracks 15 and 16 were actually unused here, rhythm guitar FX processor that was never used for this show, which is why they’re blank.
Are you able to see the issue with the “Project>Convert” only showing 12 instead of 16?
For science, it appears that reaper did not change or improve it, as the pre-reaper’d file does indeed load correctly to 16 when ‘Split’ is enabled during import. (Still only 12 of 16 when Project>Convert though)
Thank you
If I import the file as a multi-file and then use Project->Convert afterwards I also only get 12 tracks as a result.
This is not a bug, though.
The feature you use is not called “Convert” but “Convert Tracks”. The highest channel count a track can have in Cubase is 12 (immersive format 7.1.4). Thus Cubase can only load the first 12 channels into the track. When converting it you get those 12 channels.
So please use the “Split channels” option of the import dialog. That is the proper way of doing it.
So the issue occurs (Even when Split Channels is selected) if I attempt to Import multiple files of this kind at once. Each file contains about 23 minutes of tracks, and I have six sequential files for a show. If I import them all together, this problem occurs and they do not properly split.
Please create a copy of the same file as (shorttestmulti), name it like (shorttestmulticopy), and try to import them both simultaneously into Cubase. Use the Split Tracks option as that allows the full 16.
How can one have them split properly, sequentially? If I choose “One Track”, then select “Split channels”, it does not split them properly.
If I select “multiple tracks” instead of “one track” then it does, however they won’t be properly sequential, they’ll be vertical tracks in the same time region.
The specific question is regarding them being sequential, horizontally. For example, in another DAW I may drag six audio files in, which are named “01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06”, each one representing a ~20 min section of a show. When imported, they line up sequentially, and hitting Space Bar they will play straight through as a full concert.
In the import dilemma I’m having here in Cubase, I’m attempting to load in these six sequential show audio files, but they stack vertically and not horizontally after another in sequential time, and hitting Space Bar would play every file at once from its beginning. This is not optimal as I then need to select the individual tracks of 16, drag them into the end of another, make sure it’s lined up, and do this for all six sections of 16. Adding 10+ mins of busywork before I can begin mixing these tracks.
That is exactly how Cubase is supposed to work.
If you want to have the sets of 16 events on different positions you must import them either sequentially or import them first in the Pool and drag them from there into the project.
Yes, it does. But this is not a bug. This is just Cubase not working as you like it to work.
You can make this topic a feature-request but if I were you I’d rather create a new topic for a feature-request.
