Trying to create simple Lead sheet for multiple instruments. [BASIC first time Dorico project.] Was able to copy notes into parts.
Chords did not paste
Selecting just chords, copied, pasted in next part: NOTHING
According to FORUM:
•Select the Bars via the system track
•filter chords (use the jump bar!)
•copy
•paste at new location
Again, no chord were copied
First: THIS seems TEDIOUS—selecting 100+ individual measures, scrolling to select all of them. Any way to select everything in a part and copy to next instrument?
Second: Jump bar does not appear to filter chords in anyway.
Selecting the chords by the SLOW method of command clicking each chord!
COPY—PASTE in the spot—NOTHING.
If the chords are orange, shouldn’t I be able to copy and paste those to the next part by either clicking at the beginning of a measure or option clicking [from another forum answer]?
Copied and pasted and read for about 1:45 and still no chords in other horn parts.
Nowhere in forums was that pointed out. You’d think something like that may show up in all the searches with all the directions for copying chords to other parts.
This presents a NEW problem. I want chord symbols on horn parts in some places and not others. This Hiding/Showing is global. I won’t want chord changes in the alto sax except in certain places and the trumpet part will be different. I don’t want chord changes in all the rhythm parts—many times one will have chord changes and the other will have specifically notated parts.
Now if I try to delete a chord in the Alto part, all the chords disappear in all parts. This is not how this should work, right? I can delete other objects in a part and they do not disappear in the other parts.
I beg to differ. This thing with chords has been quite often talked about in this forum. I’m not criticizing your skills with the search engine; I wonder how you could find it’s not all over the forum
Regarding your horns, you simply need to take the problem in reverse. You don’t hide chords, you create chord regions. In those regions, chords will be shown.
To make players show chords, right click the player (left panel in Setup mode) and select Show chords for all instruments (held by this player).
Hope it helps!
Cool if it’s there. I’ll take any criticism if I can find what I am looking for. I copied and pasted from the Forum above. I’ll show you more. If it’s there, share a link with me rather than criticism my search.
Create chord regions is a new one. I’ll start my search now…
Seems way more complicated than I’d hoped.
All right, You’re the master searcher. I pasted what I found searching for copying chords. I searched for Copy chords.
I was not looking for SHOW CHORDS, because I didn’t realize that Showing chords was a different step that pasting something. When I paste notes and other things they pasted—I did not have to do a separate command to show them afterwards.
I would never have searched for Chord Symbol Regions for the same reason. You have to know about Chord Symbol Regions to even ask the question. I was at the stage where I selected and copied and nothing happened.
Re: manual. Search for Copy chords and 134 pages shows up. Every time the word “copy” or “chord” appears on a page. That is not often helpful. Why I went to forums. I wanted to copy and paste chords, so I searched:
Copy Past ONLY CHORDS
Simplest way to copy and paste chord symbols?
How to copy chords in Dorico
How to quickly copy Chord Symbols?
How to select and copy all chord symbols
You can look those up and see that none of these places suggested Chord Symbol Regions.
I think I get it now.
I have been working through a Udemy course. Chords hasn’t been addressed as such. I will look at this video. Thanks
The cool thing about working with chord symbols in Dorico is precisely that they don’t exist as separate items attached to individual staves. What @Janus references in the phrase system objects is that once added on any staff, they become available automatically to be shown on every staff that is set up to display them.
By default, at least jumping off of a jazz template, guitar, piano, and bass are (I believe) set up as rhythm section instruments, so any chords symbols will show. But this is a very easy setting to change in Setup Mode > Edit Instrument Definition > Staves and Clefs.
Once you’ve deactivated everyone as a “rhythm section instrument,” then creating chord symbols regions on just those measures and staves where you want them is a “piece of cake.”
You know what is a “piece of cake”? Being able to select any item, copy and paste, without defining what is a rhythm section instrument, and without creating a chord symbol region, or having to show or hide something that is right there. I am digging in to Dorico and am willing to embrace things, but this was a tough and long day. I appreciate you help.
@Bert_Ligon
I know that it can be disorienting to be presented with a new way of thinking, at first. But be confident, and once you will know more on how Dorico philosophy and logic works, you will see the advantages of it, and you will love it!
And this Forum is the best place (together with the Videos, the Manual and other resources that I linked above) to ask any of your doubts! After some time, things that may seem now abstruse and overcomplicated, will be second nature to you and all will make a lot of sense, and save you a lot of time, letting you concentrate on your music. Just be patient at the beginning and don’t hesitate to ask specific questions.
I’ve been slowly and painfully learning Dorico for several years now. What Bert_Ligon has expressed (above) targets what I have always experienced to be my chief challenge: in order to find explanations and solutions, one must first know the terminology that Dorico uses – a terminology that is often way beyond a beginner’s understanding.
For me, this problem was especially pronounced when seeking answers in the Dorico manual – a text that strives to be as precise and concise as possible, and therefore employs very particular terminology.
I have invested quite a bit of time in embedding alternative terminology into the manual, so that searches can be quite broad and still get to the right place. For example, variations on “red line” bring up results about the Insert mode stop position, and “floating grey bar” point to the system track.
User feedback helps me pick up useful alternative phrases, so you’re welcome to share your experiences in finding (or not) useful pages in the manual with me here on the forum.
Thanks, Lillie.
I most often tried to consult the manual during my first year with Dorico (using v3.5, which was some time ago), but have largely retreated from trying to find answers to certain recurring subjects since then. However, I will take you up on your offer, should I encounter similar problems in the future.
I’m not sure if this question is meant for me or not, but if it is, my comment was related to searches in general – and, in my case, searches done during my first year using Dorico, which was some time ago (search outcomes may have improved since then).
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