I’ve copied the Top Part and pasted in to Part 2. However, the paste ignores the triplets.
If I cope the Top Part and then go back and Command-click on the “3,” it then copies the entire phrase accurately.
Is this “normal”? Or is there some weird setting/preference I need to find so that I don’t have go back and select the tuplet indicators.
Yes, this is expected behaviour. If you have hidden tuplets, you need to show signposts and select them too.
Jesper
Sorry - what are “hidden tuplets”?
Is that a setting in preferences? How can I enter “un-hidden” tuplets as default?
There are settings under Library->Engraving Options->Tuplets.
Jesper
Thank you.
Thanks for your help. But I don’t see anything resembling your screenshot in my Engraving options. Sigh.
Yikes! I’m not sure what is gained by all this complexity.
But I do appreciate your response and I will return to this when I have more time.
Engraving Options lets you define how you want tuplets to display by default; the Properties panel lets you override those defaults for a particular tuplet. This is the pattern for many things in Dorico.
In terms of copying, just to add to @jesele’s answer, the principle in Dorico is that only things which are selected get copied. If you want to copy the tuplet, it has to be selected – either the number or the signpost (if the number is hidden).
Maybe you deselected the triplet? If the triplet isn’t selected together, it wont appear:
Yes. I get that. I guess my question is, when you want to select (for example) all the “music” in a particular staff, why, when using the Shift-Command-A key command (multiple times), does it ignore such an important element of the music?
It seems that, by default, Dorico does not recognize (and therefore select) the tuplet value, unless certain preferences are set. Is that correct?
And I realize that my question is somewhat rhetorical, since it appears that that is the default design.
I’ll just have to be more vigilant when selecting music with tuplets.
Again, thanks for the response(s).
I think the fundamental point is that Dorico only copies the things that have been explicitly selected. This includes tuplet numbers and any of the (many) things that you can ‘hide’.
To be sure you should view>signposts - which will reveal everything.
So in the the case of tuplets, you will either see the tuplet number on the score, or you will see a green ratio signpost if it hase been hidden.
Is there a (simple) way to select EVERYTHING on a staff in the event that you want to paste it into another staff?
Select More will only select more of what you have initially selected. If you select a couple of notes and do Select More, you’ll just select more notes. The tuplets are separate objects.
If you include a tuplet in your selection – maybe select the first note, then Ctrl/Cmd+click the first tuplet – and then do Select More a couple of times, you will select all notes and tuplets.
A marquee (drag) selection will also select everything in the marquee, and if you select the first measure you want and Shift+click the last measure you want, that will also select just about everything in those measures. (It excludes things like time signatures, but that’s a different discussion!)
See my reply above. If you literally want EVERYTHING, then the best thing is to switch to viewing the layout for that staff and use the System Track to make your selection, then copy and paste where you want it.
FWIW, if you use the key command (repeatedly) to select, for example, all the notes in a staff and then go back and select the first tuplet value, and THEN, holding down the Command key, select the first tuplet value, and THEN use the Shift-Command-A again you will then select all the tuplet values (along with the notes).
Are there actually instances where you would want to select ONLY the notes in a tuplet? That is without the tuplet value? I’m sure, given all the vagaries of musical notation, there must be; I just can’t think of one at the moment.
Actually I do it quite a lot, especially when I’m playing around with rhythms. I’ll copy just the notes of a passage, then change some durations and/or the position of tuplets…
But I guess everyone’s needs and workflows differ.
Indeed.
