Copying Slash Regions with hidden music

Hello,

When I copy a slash region where the music is hidden, only the slashes are copied—the hidden music itself isn’t included. I understand I could enable hidden notes, copy the region, and then hide them again, but that feels unintuitive.

Is there a setting that would allow everything—including hidden music—to be copied more easily?

Thanks in advance!

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Dorico is consistent: it only copies objects that have been selected.

No, other than showing other voices, there is no other setting.

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Thank you. That’s what I feared.

Did you try using the system track to do your copying? I just tried copying a slash region with hidden music and, using the system track to do the copying, it copied the hidden music as well.

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The original question did not specify whether the copying was lateral, or from one instrument to another. Since the system track cannot do the latter, I did not raise that possibility.

I’m not sure I follow. You mean that copying say from Soprano voice to Tenor voice won’t copy the hidden music? I just tried it, it does.

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I just tried it too and it didn’t. I added some music > created a slash region, covering the music > selected the slash region > copied > pasted into another staff.

Unless the Show other voices property is activated, directly copying a Slash Region and pasting it somewhere else will only copy the slashes.

EDIT: Technically, you could navigate to a layout containing one instrument, use the System Track to select and copy the slashed bar(s), and then paste them to another staff…

Did you copy using the system track? If you don’t use it, it definitely won’t work.

If you’re viewing a layout with multiple instruments, you can’t just select a bar in one particular staff via the System Track; it will select that bar in all staves. Am I mistaken?

The only way to select a bar of one particular staff (using the system track) is by viewing a layout with just that player.

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I think you are correct. The only way to use a system track selection would be to manually deselect the other staves before copying.

I figured out what I did. I had a soprano and tenor (voice) players. I used the system track to copy the slash & hidden notes. I then clicked on the destination tenor part and pressed paste. Of course only the soprano part was pasted. It didn’t occur to me that if one had more than two players in your score it won’t copy correctly without deselecting the other staves before copying. Thanks for pointing that out.

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How do you manually deselect the other staves before copying?

You can not leave it here, with this solution, dear developers.

It’s a pity that it has to be so cumbersome. There are dozens of options to refine selections, but none to tell Dorico “select EVERYTHING” except the system track, which isn’t really practical nor always helpful.

Same problem with copying music with chord symbols. Also there, we’re obliged to make use of the system track. It’s logical, but again an extra step.

I don’t know if copying almost only what is seen on screen can be called “consistent”.
Please take this as a serious suggestion for improving our workflow: make us able to “select EVERTHING”. To me, thát is consistency.

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In v6, there’s a new command Add Chord Symbols to Selection. You can invoke this from the jump bar, or you can add a key command for it in Preferences.

Okay, thank you for solving that one!
But this DOES NOT SOLVE the entire problem, dear forum.

If I want to copy music that is behind slashes, for whatever reason (I like working measure per measure instead of having some macro workflow, so I run into situations where I have to go back to a place that is already perfected for print when I’m still in the writing phase. Don’t judge me on that°°*), I really have to remove the entire region, copy, and then putting the slashes back. If not, the music is not carried over, which is of course a problem for playback.

°° In my troubled mind, modern tools shouldn’t force people into systems. Anyone could easily argument “Why don’t you treat your work separately: writing - engraving - playback tweaks” but nevertheless this maybe the way most people’s brains work, mine don’t, terribly sorry* :zany_face: .

People of almost any age have a fantastic capacity to learn new things.

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