# Crash and bass drum not beaming together in stem up **URL:** \ **Category:** Dorico\ **Created:** [June 21, 2023, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351 "2023-06-21T06:03:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rock\_roshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@rock\_roshan](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rock_roshan)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/1 "2023-06-21T06:03:25Z")
![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/3/1/31608e49bb03d047bdc94ce9a1c61fd5a9fd017b.png) I am not able to bring the crash and bass drum notes in one alignment even though they both are on the same beat and for some reason the there are rests placed on the top so I think the crash note is on a totally different stem up? Please help ---
**Author:** ![MarcLarcher](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/marclarcher/32/1623_2.png) [@MarcLarcher](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/MarcLarcher)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/2 "2023-06-21T06:56:34Z")
Have you tried and changed the Notation options to match this ? ![Capture d’écran 2023-06-21 à 08.56.11](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/2/0/2052f6034958b470d0a336fb379d6bb447046127.png) ---
**Author:** ![rock\_roshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@rock\_roshan](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rock_roshan)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/3 "2023-06-21T07:25:55Z")
no, where can I find this setting? ---
**Author:** ![Janus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@Janus](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Janus)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/4 "2023-06-21T07:44:34Z")
_Library\>Notation Options\>Percussion_ ---
**Author:** ![rock\_roshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@rock\_roshan](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rock_roshan)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/5 "2023-06-21T07:54:40Z")
I am on SE version btw, don’t seem to have this option ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/7/7/770f9a070b50521a45a3c10f57263358c80d0ad4.png) ---
**Author:** ![Janus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@Janus](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Janus)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/6 "2023-06-21T08:02:47Z")
My apologies (you did not specify which version you had). You would have to upgrade to Elements to do this. ---
**Author:** ![rock\_roshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@rock\_roshan](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rock_roshan)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/7 "2023-06-21T08:04:35Z")
oh, that’s sad, thanks anyways!! ---
**Author:** ![Nukkul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9f8e36/32.png) [@Nukkul](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Nukkul)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/8 "2023-06-21T08:13:56Z")
You can edit the drum kit in _setup mode_. Click on the three dots next to the instrument name and choose _edit percussion kit_. Select all the instruments and choose the preferred stem direction. ---
**Author:** ![rock\_roshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@rock\_roshan](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rock_roshan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/9 "2023-06-22T16:25:44Z")
hi, thankyou for your response, this solved that one problem but messed up the other places as a whole and added more rests, still treating the bass drum as a different stem even though in up direction ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/6/d/6d5c28781d04b8359b65e055bfc7c1b58a2b023c.png) ---
**Author:** ![Nukkul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9f8e36/32.png) [@Nukkul](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Nukkul)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/10 "2023-06-22T17:05:45Z")
Did you accidentally put the bass drum in another voice? ![Bildschirmfoto 2023-06-22 um 19.05.59](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/2/5/255843bef81635a25baaa2e419433195e1ed0ee8.png) ---
**Author:** ![rock\_roshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@rock\_roshan](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rock_roshan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/11 "2023-06-22T18:30:10Z")
no, all the drums and cymbals are in voice 1, also this problem is only with the cymbals, the drums are aligning together properly ---
**Author:** ![Nukkul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9f8e36/32.png) [@Nukkul](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Nukkul)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/12 "2023-06-22T18:35:59Z")
Did you check with the colors too? _View \> Note And Rest Colors \> Voice Colors_ Can you share a cutdown version of this drum part? ---
**Author:** ![rock\_roshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@rock\_roshan](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rock_roshan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/13 "2023-06-22T18:48:00Z")
![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/9/5/9547f105a16d3adedd226c2fd09e9e6535f234c7.png) how should I send looks like the voices are different, but in setup they are all in voice 1 ---
**Author:** ![MarcLarcher](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/marclarcher/32/1623_2.png) [@MarcLarcher](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/MarcLarcher)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/14 "2023-06-22T19:29:17Z")
Only the hi-hat seems to be in a different voice, if I may… ---
**Author:** ![Nukkul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9f8e36/32.png) [@Nukkul](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Nukkul)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/15 "2023-06-22T19:45:10Z")
> [@Four simple guidelines to help us help you](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/four-simple-guidelines-to-help-us-help-you/123752): > > We are proud to say that the Dorico forum is friendly, supportive and constructive, and it’s our aim to keep it that way. Members of the Dorico development and support teams closely monitor the forum, and this is the place you can have a direct conversation with the people responsible for designing and building the application. The forum is also frequented by many expert users of the software, who generously give of their time to offer assistance to their fellow users. In order to keep the discu… You can add a cut down version right to a post. In your last post just the hi hat is in a different voice. I don’t know, why and how this happened. ---
**Author:** ![rock\_roshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@rock\_roshan](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rock_roshan)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/16 "2023-06-23T04:06:21Z")
hi, hat crash, ride and other cymbals and woodblocks ---
**Author:** ![rock\_roshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@rock\_roshan](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rock_roshan)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/17 "2023-06-23T04:16:58Z")
ok, so previously all the drums were stem down in setup and cymbals were in stem up, all I did was write the parts and force stem up which made that happen, now I have made all the drums stem up too (in setup) and this has solved the problem ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/original/3X/7/9/79d9ba4fc68e21a78f9373340b3e557a5accce8d.png) but this gives me the question, what if I want a different setup in the other bars, example: bass drum and floor tom in stem down and others stem up, will force stem up/stem down hinder the alignment ---
**Author:** ![rock\_roshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@rock\_roshan](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rock_roshan)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/18 "2023-06-23T05:05:34Z")
[cut down.dorico](https://forums.steinberg.net/uploads/short-url/2d7fV9IupEyWnv6D4s7WWqGCTNC.dorico) (964.8 KB) ---
**Author:** ![Nukkul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9f8e36/32.png) [@Nukkul](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Nukkul)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/19 "2023-06-23T07:32:24Z")
In a percussion kit you have to set up the up-down-stem-voices in the _edit Percussion kit_. You can’t change the voice each bar You can flip the written stem direction of a beamed group by hitting “f” in write mode. (The stem direction you set in setup mode isn’t fixed. Its just a “upstem 1” voice or a “downstem 2” voice). Maybe a picture or description of what you wan’t to achieve would help. ---
**Author:** ![rock\_roshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@rock\_roshan](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rock_roshan)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351/20 "2023-06-23T08:46:17Z")
I have followed trinity drum notation, and in that whenever we have parts that have NO bass drum and floor tom and hi hat foot on off beats, they are mostly up stem with the snare and other things, so all the notes with stem up in that bar, but if there are more off beats in the a different bar in the same sheet, the bass drum and floor time and hi hat foot use stem down and others stem up [Next page](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/crash-and-bass-drum-not-beaming-together-in-stem-up/855351.md?page=2)