Since installing 7.2 and subsequently 7.2.1 I have had three major crashes in less than an hour. Twice Wavelab disappeared simply from the screen, the third time I got a spinning beachball before it disappeared.
I was working in the Montage, just arranging clips.
I am on a Mac, System 7.6.8
This is no way to work. I will have to go back to 7.1
Johannes
For sure 7.2.1 has corrected many things compared to 7.1. I don’t have similar reports with 7.2.1. Give it another try, and try to guess maybe some contextual reasons for these problems. Some plugins maybe?
There is no Mac System 7.6.8, but I guess you meant 10.6.8.
Philippe
Yes, sorry, 10.6.8 of course.
I have just reinstalled Wavelab 7, and updated to 7.1.1. Those crashes already lost me work, I think I will now stick to 7.1.1 for some time.
I did restart the computer after the first crash, btw, then updated to 7.2.1. I got the next crash within 10 minutes.
The only plugins active in all of these crashed sessions were StudioEQ and Altiverb.
As I said, Wavelabe just disappeared, no messages.
Otherwise I had not changed a things since I worked with Wavelab last. I did intall 7.2 last year at some stage, and I cannot say whether I worked for any amount of time after the update, possibly not.
Gruß,
Johannes
I am having a couple of crashes with the latest build (today 4 times).
WL often crashes while trying to save my work.
I am editing an audiobook with chaptes 10-20min long.
Listening to the chapters looking for glitches etc. is really time comsuming.
Everytime WL crashes I have to relisten to the complete chapter.
That`s a PITA.
System: XP - SP3/ WL 7.2.1
No plugins running while editing.
WL crahes without message- just hangs up while saving.
Under the Mac, the system provides a crash dump facility. Sending me this dump, is sometimes useful.
Under Windows, you can generate one crash dump from WaveLab if you do so:
While pressing the Alternate key (press first and maintain), select “Gobal preferences” from the WaveLab menu with the mouse.
In that case, there is a new tab called “Diagnostics”. There you can activate several functions.
Activate the option “Enable crash report”, at the bottom. If a crash happens, one crash dump is generated.
Mostly while saving my work I am experiencing a “Sudden death” / Freeze of my system.
I never had this before with WL 7 on this PC…
In this case i dont think that a report is written into the dump file. Couldnt find a dump report in the Wavelab Folder…
Hi,
New software installed or plug-ins ?
check memory, hard drive and even graphic card
Sure it can be WL by itself but it can also be combination
with OS, software and hardware.
regards S-EH
Crash after attempting to save new file after normalising in audio file workspace.
HTH
Tom
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Process: WaveLab 7 [1366]
Path: /Applications/WaveLab 7.app/Contents/MacOS/WaveLab 7
Identifier: net.steinberg.WaveLab_7
Version: 7.2.600 (7.2.600)
Build Info: WaveLab 7-Unknown~600
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [112]
Date/Time: 2012-02-13 14:52:32.893 +0000
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
Report Version: 6
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x000000000000004c
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
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Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0xbfffe774 ecx: 0x1585d080 edx: 0xbfffce2c
edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0xbfffe774 ebp: 0xbfffe2d8 esp: 0xbfffe2c0
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00210286 eip: 0x018d8280 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x0000004c
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Hello PG
Below report of a crash on Mac after attempting to delete a track containing a clip in Montage.
If you let me know whether these logs are of any use or not, I can continue to post or otherwise, but have let you know due to the high priority of software stability.
HTH
Tom
[edited to remove lengthy uninformative crash post]
Thanks. Crash dumps are useful, or not, depending on the original problem. In this case, there are not, because the real problem seems to happens “sometime” before the actual crash.
I have this problem 
(blue screen)
Firma problema:
Nome evento problema: BlueScreen
Versione SO: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3
ID impostazioni locali: 1040
Ulteriori informazioni sul problema:
BCCode: 1000008e
BCP1: C0000005
BCP2: 82CF7158
BCP3: C39DDC18
BCP4: 00000000
OS Version: 6_0_6002
Service Pack: 2_0
Product: 768_1
File che contribuiscono alla descrizione del problema:
C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini022812-03.dmp
C:\Users\Beppe\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-68078-0.sysdata.xml
C:\Users\Beppe\AppData\Local\Temp\WER4539.tmp.version.txt
I can’t use Wavelab 7.2.1 anymore !!!
Hello PG
I spent the day working with latest WL on Mac 10.6.8, and averaged about 1 crash per hour or so. Even when often saving, one loses work this way. I’m very happy to have WL on the mac, but using software that appears unstable is no fun…
Is there an update on the horizon to address overall mac stability?
From the users side, what is the best way for mac uses to help you with this problem, assuming that it is fairly widelspread? (I have a fairly recent macbook pro, use no other plug-ins than those that ship with the mac -and some in developer tools perhaps). I can try to post a crash log here each time I get a crash, but it’s not clear from your earlier post whether this would actually be of benefit for you.
Regards
Tom
I also get crashes in following situation:
while rendering in audio montage I click ok to render and WL 7.2.1 freezes, need to quit it and restart and the it works. It doesn’t happen always but still I loose my work if I forget to save it before rendering.
If switching to another program plugins still stay on top of the window don’t hide with WL which is annoying.
Also hitting render doesn’t start process of rendering sometimes, need to do it again. So I loose some time thinking it renders and it doesn’t.
Hope still exists that one day WL will work as it should be:) Any update planned soon PG?
Best
Denis
If the montage is in full-screen view, and the audio file window is not, it will crash. I still get crashes all the time because whenever I create a new montage, it launches in full screen view. I have to immediately turn off that view, quit (twice, because a second instance or something lingers), then relaunch. As far as I can tell, eliminating full screen view would cure all my crashes.
Why do you use full screen mode at all, if it causes problem for you?
I do everything I can not to, but every time I launch a montage window it opens that way.
Try removing (or renaming) this setting file, that stores the layout settings:
/Users/YourName/Library/Preferences/WaveLab 7/Preferences/General.dat
That didn’t fix it. While it’s clear that the preferences were reset (I can tell because everything is blue again), when I create a new montage, it still launches fullscreen.
Have you saved a default workspace layout that was set in full screen mode? That is the only explanation i see.
Try deleting this folder:
WaveLab 7/Presets/Workspace/Layout/AudioMontage
Philippe
That did the trick! How can I save a new layout as the default? I’d rather go back to the old one, take it out of fullscreen, and save it that way. I have kind of a minimalist thing going. 
Brian.