Hi!
When I want to create a system brea, for my examples (guitar examples in lesson curriculum), the staff ends up on top of each other and it’s difficult to get the staff to where I want it…
When making a system break - it would be great if the bars to the right of where you make the system break ends up below, and not on top…
Anyone else experiencing this problem? Or am I doing something wrong here? Couldn’t upload a video of it so I’ll try with a screenshot.
Kind regards/Emil
Normally, when some overlapping occurs, it’s because there is too much stuff around the staves, like dynamics, bar numbers, rehearsal marks and such, where Dorico’s “rough guess” about how tall a stave will be, goes wrong.
But in your case there are no such things at all…
Could you post a (cut down) excerpt from your project file?
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Here’s a video;
or did you mean a Dorico file?
Yes, a Dorico file.
We need to see what’s going on in the rest of the page.
Also, what are you trying to achieve?
Do you want a little one-bar ‘stub’ system, or do you want full-width systems?
Have you finished entering the notes for this page? I wouldn’t do any layout until all the notes are in.
If you’ve already overridden the staff spacing (by moving the staves/systems up and down, as denoted by the red handles), then you have tied Dorico’s hands a bit!
Why did you move staves around manually? In most cases, there’s a way of achieving what you need without having to do so.
I’m going to take a wild guess and suggest you wanted the systems more spread out than they were by default? If so, either
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Use vertical justification to fill the height of the page – if pages aren’t justifying vertically, lower the minimum threshold to do so
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If you want more spread out systems without them filling the full height of the page, conversely increase the vertical justification threshold, but also significantly increase the Ideal Gap for between systems
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ProGuitar - Thumb Independence LESSON.dorico (1.2 MB)
Ah sorry! 
Here’s the file… try making a system break on the last bar there, to see what happens.
Kind regards/E
Hi!
I usually want to have 4 bars (notation staff/tab staff) per row, and then a new example… I usually put in three examples (three lines with 4 bars each per page)… When done with the page. I make I frame break on the last bar to make a new page and start again… maybe this is a bad way to do this? It has worked fine - except for this problem that I have to drag it like the video if the bars end up on top of each other…
Kind regards/E
Nice - that’s really good to know! Thank you so much!
Sometimes though… some examples are 4 bars and some two… etc… I want to be able to control and customize the layout easily each page. I’m guessing there are many ways to do this - and my way is probably not the most efficient.
The problem is caused because you have moved every system from its default position very far.
Why are you moving every system by hand? For a simple layout like this, you should be able to set the margins and system gaps exactly as you want them in Layout Options.
Only make small manual changes, when you’ve exhausted all the Options!
The reason for me moving to get space is because I will add an “Example - TEXT” above each system/example where I describe the example etc… so there’s a fair amount of text added in between each example… So I usually first write out the example and then add the text and then adjust the layout - hmm (I’m fairly new at this so I understand there are better ways )
See what I have (very crudely) done to this document. I’ve reset all your manual staff adjustments, and put each example in a separate music frame, with a text frame for each.
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Very nice!
I’m not sure how to do what you did - could you possible share a video or just share the steps in writing?
Thank you very much for the guidance!!
There is a ton of videos about Layout on the YouTube Dorico channel. For example :
Or Playlists:
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Thank you!
If each system is a separate example, and each example will have a heading, I would recommend using a separate flow per example and Dorico’s automatic flow headings:
You can change the barline at the end of each flow, to show a double barline rather than a final barline, or however you want this to look.
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Thank you!!