Creating a stuttering dubstep hoover effect in Cubase?

Can someone help me please? I’ve created a hoover effect with Albino 3 and I am trying to find a way to create that stuttering effect in dubstep. I’ve seen a few tutorials with people using Massive and LFO Tool, but for the life of me I cannot get LFO Tool to work at all. There has to be an easy way to do this, right?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Try MIDI gate.

Sidechaining.

get Cyclops by sugarbytes

Thanks. I’ll check out Cyclop and will try MIDI Gate too. I tried sidechaining it but it wasn’t sounding right.

Give an example which stutter effect you are looking for…there are so many combinations of stutters, stops, sidechaining, filtersweeps, wobblers etc.

This would help us to give you a better answer…


Cheers,

Marcus

Yes, that would probably help. If you go to this link for Bar9 on Soundcloud
https://soundcloud.com/bar9

The track is the 5th one down (right now anyway) called “What You Gonna Do.” If you scrub to 0:54 this is where the stuttered hoover effect is that I’m trying to replicate. I should emphasize that I am NOT trying to replicate this to use it on my own track. I’m trying to learn how the effect is created. I started with Cubase VST back in the day and went up to 2.1, but I haven’t touched any music for the last several years so now I’m on Cubase 7 and trying to learn some new methods and relearn the software. Any help is really appreciated.

Thanks!

Have you tried sidechaining the “gate” in Cubase? The gate opens and closes when an external key signal is present/absent.

Be sure to sent the key signal (or stutter Rhythm ) to “no output” and “send” to the gate as a key. Play with the attack and release on the gate to get the effect you want.

I don’t do stutter dub step but that seems logical to me.

Edit: Alternatively Glitch is quite good an inexpensive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCgENwOytuA

There is a very good chance they are chopping up audio samples to get the stutter effect rather than using a gate.

Create the hoover sound using your favorite synth(s) and then bounce to audio. Chop it up and arrange with other samples to get the stutter and rapid changed between sounds.

Random audio chopping tip:

It took me a bit of searching for some reason, but to chop up an entire audio file into equal slices with one click based on your current grid settings

  1. set your grid to 1/8 or 1/16, or at whatever increment you want to chop the audio file
  2. Set snap to “Use quantize”
  3. select the scissor tool
  4. hold down the ALT key (on Mac, not sure about Windows) and cut the audio file at the first grid division (essentially as close to the beginning of the file as you can)

i never used it but i think loopmash 2 has stuttering functions to it…(loopmash is plugin comes with cubase 7)
also there are guys who actually cut audio for small sections and mute some of them rhythmically to make stuttering fx. and also has mentioned using very fast gate as sidechain.

try those guys blog on youtube, i saw there awhile ago some cool methods of electronic music production. also the stuttering thing but don’t remember on which episode.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjuHXsOZTac

buy Cyclops it’s a lot less hassle !

db glitch is pretty handy too!

Hi there,

I’m not entirely sure exactly what the ‘Dubstep hoover effect’ is but I love synthesis and I understand what you mean about glitching/stuttering etc (awesome). I just wanted to mention that there are some cool examples online of using Retrologue in Cubase 7 to create Dubstep style sounds such as this one:

Cubase 7 How to create Wobble DubStep Bass using Retrologue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrfiwAxNrPY

The demo generates the stutter/wobble effect using LFO within Retrologue, but you can also get similar effects using a gate (as mentioned above) driven by LFO (such as a square wave). I can do this automatically in my BOSS VF1 (an external FX unit) but I would think you could get exactly the same effect in Cubase 7 by driving a gate with side chain (with a steep square wave like pulse as the side chain source).

Also I’m pretty sure there was an official Steinberg tutorial which essentially covered the same material as above (unless I’m mistaken) but with a voice over which also went deeper by illustrating how to use automation on the LFO sync to skip between different frequencies of wobble musically etc. I will see if I can track it down for you.

I’m sorry I don’t think I added anything more useful than has already been suggested but perhaps the tutorial above will allow you to get what you want out of Retrologue (or perhaps help you tease the sound out of the synth you are currently using)! :wink:

Anyway - hope this helps!

Regards,

Kat :slight_smile:

has glitch been discontinued and only available in 32 bit Mat ?

No it’s been updated to glitch 2 and is available in 64bit too,
It’s not free any more but it’s pretty reasonable… About $35 or so iirc.

Hi popflier,

I might have found something that will help you adapt the synth sound you created to get the stutter effect you are after. I remembered an effect in Soundforge called ‘Gapper Snipper’ that creates a stuttering effect (a form of automated gate), and consequently I had a quick look in Cubase 7 to see if there was something similar. Through this I discovered an effect called ‘Chopper’ which is located under inserts ->> modulation ->> chopper and essentially does exactly what you’re after.

It can be forced to act as an automated gate that is synced with the tempo and can be driven by a square wave LFO. If you set the ‘depth’ to 100% it will stutter the source sound (i.e. use it as an insert effect on your synth VSTi) and furthermore; you can set up an automation track for it by adding a parameter so that you can switch between appropriate musical stutters (off beats, triplets etc) - see attached. This basically acts the same as the gate in my BOSS VF1, so its good to know that its available as an automated VST effect!

NOTE* The only caveat is that:

A) Because its a simple effect you don’t get all the fine tuning capabilities that a dedicated gate has (ADSR etc) so if its too simplistic for your needs I would recommend trying the side chained gate approach instead (however you could still use this effect to drive the side chain by applying it to a continuous tone which would make controlling the gate child’s play)!

B) Because its a modulation effect (being forced to act like a gate) if you have the effect in stereo mode it alternates the stutter between the Left/Right channels (which is probably not what you want) however the workaround is just to use 2 x copies of it as a MONO effect on each channel of the synth (using a bus etc) then just duplicate the all important ‘speed’ automation parameter (which controls the stutter timing) between channels (I haven’t tried this but its makes sense in my head at least)! :wink:

Hope this helps,

Kat :slight_smile:

Hey popflier,

I did a quick search on YouTube and found the official Steinberg Retrologue demo I was talking about:

Tutorial: Retrologue Bass Programming by Sebastian Mönch (Product specialist)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_f_5MP2Pg8

I think that you are likely to get the best result if you use the LFO on the synth to get the stuttering effect as that is likely to produce the smoothest result. A problem with carving up audio is the abrupt jumps between signal and silence (which can produce audible clicks). This can be softened using a gate by adding a little attack/release but it seems like a popular way of achieving the effect your after is to just use the target synth’s LFO on the cutt-off frequency; as it creates that gorgeous squelchy wobbly sync thing! I’m not really into dubstep (being an old school D&B romantic) but I have to admit I love those phat sounds - very cool! :sunglasses:

Regards,

Kat :slight_smile:

free and it works great !!!

http://www.kvraudio.com/product/supatrigga_by_smart_electronix

I had an unexpected medical issue that came up shortly after my initial post in June. Since then I have been unable to return to board until now. I quickly wanted to say thank you to everyone for posting their thoughts on my dubstep question. I’m going to start at the beginning and go through the suggestions that everyone took the time to write me. I wasn’t aware that DB Glitch had created a “Glitch 2” that was 64bit. I used the original DB Glitch about 10 years ago and loved it. I’ve had so many issues with running the VST bridge on Cubase 7 that it’s not worth using my old DB Glitch. Good to know that there’s a new version of it and the price is reasonable as well.

Thanks again everyone for the tips…excited to finally get back to this.

This tutorial shows how to create stuttering effects in Cubase using sidechain gating:

http://www.cubasetutorial.net/2013/01/15/cubase-7-side-chain-compressor-and-wah-wah-tutorial/