Creating Parts with fixed Layout from Full Score

Hi all,

I have a timecode based notation in Dorico, so I use an invisible time signature at 5/4 with q = 60 and no bar numbers but a timecode.
Here is an example what the Full Score looks like:

Since the players are only focusing on time but not a metrum in a traditional sense, I want the parts to look the same.

So the parts for the Bar. Sax. should be as follows:
3 Bars per line, all bars equally spaced.

Dorico is not capable of doing this efficiently, so I worked around by using lots of rests that are invisible. However, those depend on the given context, so the rests are somewhere distributed around the whole score.

This causes the following artefact in the parts.

So my question:

Is there a function in Dorico, that let’s me apply the Full Score Layout to the parts automatically? Like if I would do this old school by cutting out and putting together and scanning?

If no, I will do it the old school way. Just wondering.

Thanks and all the best!

I can only offer that the way I handle this sort of thing, using Dorico’s propagating feature in Setup Mode does not allow score-to-part propagation (see the first “Note” set-off box):

But “hang tight” — someone else may have a technique for achieving the result you’re after.

You could try to duplicate the full score layout and then delete all but one player. Do the same for each player.
Just make sure you lock the layout in the duplicated layout before removing any players.

So @LAE , just to clarify: by deleting all but one player does Dorico “understand” that (duplicated score) layout to now be a part layout, making propagating available?

Hmm, I will try this out. That sounds very promising to me. Just unsure if it is actually working as I’m having page breaks and then there would be only one line per page.
Or can I change pagebreaks to system breaks without crashing the whole layout?

What do you mean by propagating? In the end, if I am having 12 files, each for one player, I do not care tbh. I just need to send the pdf files out. if it’s all in one project or not for the parts, both is fine.

I also found out about the slice feature right now.
So I was thinking, I may create just a slice and move it horizontally for each instrument and copy paste that to every page.
Therefore I would get tons of png images, that are same in size. I could then just add them together in an image editing software such as GIMP.

Propagating is discussed in that link I shared above. (It’s handy for quickly copying things like page size, margins, system and frame breaks, etc., from a part (layout) you’ve set to others.)

But I assumed you’re dealing with one Dorico project file, with all of the parts included (as their own layouts). Are you actually making twelve different Dorico projects, one for each part?

Honestly, I do not care to duplicate the file 12 times. If it safes me 10 hours of formatting the parts, I’d definitely do it.
Just looking for the fastest way.

Tried this one.
It does work but has one downside:
Dorico usually tries to avoid two bars above each other (for some formatting conventions from the 19th century).
So it distorts the timecode, as the bars are not all equally wide…

Nor would I! (I thought that’s what you meant above, but I’m glad to hear otherwise.)

A few questions:

  1. By “bars” do you mean the lines-plus-hooks that extend from each notehead?
  2. Have you tried setting your note spacing ration from the default 1.41421 to 2.0? (That produces more linear/regular spacing, especially if there are no smaller flagged/beamed note values.)

At this point, I think that if you’re willing to share a copy of your project file here, it might be more efficient for one of us to “peek inside” to think about a solution.

Yes, in the properties panel.

Jesper

No, but as you duplicate the layout, everything you could propagate will be there anyway. The downside is that you will probably have to change some layout options to get rid of staff labels etc, but in this case maybe that passes.

Actually btw, this is the best way (AFAIK) to save time for a part layout with lots of manual adjustments; duplicate a finished part layout for Horn I for instance, rename it, check Horn 2 to be in this new layout, then uncheck Horn I. Staff spacing adjustments, note spacings etc will be in the new part.

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Have you experimented with the settings for note spacing? Maybe that could help.

[Oops, @judddanby beat me to it!]