Cubase 10.5 changes exp. maps articulations on playback. [Fixed in C11/10.5.30]

I’m not sure that seems to be the case…
In the short clip i posted a few days back, the random switch is happening right in the middle of a playing note that it’s somewhere in the middle of a MIDI Part.
The track wasn’t armed, yet, It’s very clear that Kontakt is receiving a midi message somehow.

Edit: The track is an instrument track, and i have one Kontakt instance per track, so no other tracks should be sending messages to that particular Kontakt instance.

Hi,

Thank you. I mean the Preferences > MIDI. The root one. See attached screenshot, please.
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Hi,

Then it’s interesting that the note, which is ahead of the MIDI Part helps here. Why?

Hey Martin!, thanks for looking at all this.
Not sure to follow…in the short video, the articulation is supposed to be Pizzicato, and it starts ok, but then it switches to Arco for no apparent reason while playing.
Then, it never goes back to Pizzicato for the following notes either, all the green notes are supposed to play Pizzicato.

Hi,

Exactly, in this short video, I’m wondering if the yayellou’s trick would help. If it would help, if there would be a MIDI Note ahead of the MIDI Part left border.

All this fascinating and just as mysterious


Martin, I send you pictures in MP

Hi,

Thank you, you have the default/factory settings, as I can see.

Unfortunately yayellou’s trick doesn’t help in my case either… It seems like cubase would just “accidentally” loose some information on the way. Most of the time first everything plays back correctly and then after a few seconds issues start to occur.

By the way: I just installed Cubase 10.0, and so far it works without hiccups. I guess it is a bug introduced in 10.5. Or is someone having these issues on 10.0 as well?

Same here, Cubase 10.0 works just fine, this started happening in 10.5.

Hey guys,

I have the same problem here. I bought the 10.5 Update half a year ago and still can’t use it because of this issue. I’m slowly getting a little pissed of by this… This is obviously a bug and not a setup-problem.
Is there an official place to report bugs at Steinberg?

Cheers, Timo

Same problem. Any ETA on this? My work depends on expression maps working properly and I’ve had 10.5 since last year but not able to use it due to this.

Adding my voice to problem. When should we expect a patch?

Me too. Worked fine in 10.0 but not working in 10.5

I can reproduce it 100% and happy to produce test files if need be…

It is particularly noticeable when using “render in place”

Same issue here, looking forward to a solution. Only on big templates. Playback plays random articulations. I have to playback the cue a few times until it actually syncs back to the correct articulations.

10.5.20 release notes don’t seem to say anything about this. Anyone tried if it still happens?

Just looking at the issues some people are having with the new update, I think I’ll wait a while before testing…:frowning:

We will still continue to struggle like galley slaves. But there are always ways to get around the problems. Be imaginative

What I see happening is some articulation will work only on the note where they’re being applied, other will be stick. Once the music passes a note, the articulation returns to the artc. at the top of the list in expressions file. That seems to be the default setting. This happens mostly with short artc., like pizzicato or marcato. Sustinuto type setting have more sustainability. My work around has been to apply the artc to each note where they’re not sticking. Rather time consuming, but it works. I’ve also start making the default artc the one most frequently used. Perhaps someone has a better work around.

By the way, nice video .

Hi,

Unfortunately I still can’t reproduce it, but reported to Steinberg CAN-29604.