Cubase 12 performance is a nightmare

Absolutey, completely agree with you.
I was at a similar point as you. Fortunately I never had serious issues with Cubase in general like you seem to have, but lots of inconsistencies were/are driving me nuts. Until now I think I opened over 30 issue threads and about the same amount of feature request threads.

On the other hand I have to say, that there exists no other DAW which has that many features and allows you to practically record, produce, mix and master all in one, no matter the genre you’re working on.
I also tried out all other big DAWs out there, from Reaper to Protools, over Logic to Studio one (Ableton and FL did not make it in my closer selection, as I am rarely working in electronic music) and all I can say is, that even if some things may be better solved in another DAW, in general Cubase wipes the floor with them.
Some features are implemented way worse, or are completely missing, the performance on some is worse (of course if you’re not one of those who have performance issues in general), incompatible hardware, bugs over bugs, etc.

Now I am coming from an IT background, worked in a support staff for a software developing company for about 10 years and had also some smaller projects where I was responsible for the code. A big software like Cubase or Nuendo is pretty damn hard to get right for everyone, I get that.
But there are some ways to improve on that, by i.e. offering open beta testings, publishing release schedules and just a more open communication.

I am sure a lot of people here in this thread would be glad to join a small testing team to help solve these performance issues.

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Yeah, that’s my issue in moving to another DAW.

Simply put, Cubase has made it impossible to move into another DAW because its features are incredible.

Not only that , but they have thrown in some insanely incredible plugins that have made my life a lot easier, especially when producing synth sounds.

But, I am working with really heavy projects (film scores) and all is lovely and amazing when I start a session. 10/10 times, when I am about to finish the damn thing , it all goes to hell, without fail.
Spikes, crashes, the lot.

Lately, I had a session getting stuck on a random bar and looping itself for absolutely no reason…when that happens, there is no way out, the file gets corrupted.

If there was an equal program without so many bugs, I would have bolted out of Cubase a long time ago, and that’s a sad thing to say, bearing in mind that I am a loyal, long time client…

Exact same boat as you. I’m using Studio One 5 until things get sorted out. Same projects, no spikes.

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Your computer is old. they told me. Ok, guys, new computer - the same behaviour

Steinberg EXTREMELY need to fix it because I don’t want to switch my DAW just because of this only major problem. Catastrophic problem. 6 months of regular updates is just a useless labour

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What CPU are u using? If it is an Alderlake CPU then this is a known problem and a pain in the backside for many months now for Cubase as it sometimes prioritises E-Cores over P-Cores which causes spikes and dropouts.
Steps to take if affected:

  1. Do not use the Steinberg Power Scheme as this makes the issue worse on Alderlake
  2. Go to EDIT POWER PLAN on PC and make sure it is on HIGH PERFORMANCE
  3. If problem still persist then the nuke option is to go into the BIOS and disable the E-Cores
  4. BEST OPTION for best performance is to use Bitsum Lasso, set it to Bitsum Highest Performance Scheme, if you go the Bitsum route it is best in my experience with this E-Core nightmare to load the Cubase session first then enable Bitsum Lasso

Hope that helps :slight_smile:

Most people don’t seem to have these issues with C11, so I’d suggest to use that in the meantime?
@jjjooonnn @AntonVorozhtsov

I know its not something one wants to hear. But if you need to get work done and before doing all the hard work to switch to another DAW, why don’t just use the prior working version?

I mean C12 has some nice additions, but the overall working experience is not that different.

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Dongle-free operation. It’s extremely important for me and this is the main reason for me to spend 100 euro for update. But I forced to use C11 for that tasks. I’m 100km away from possible nuclear disaster and I will not have much time and possibility to take all my stuff if russians decide to make it happened

3 posts were split to a new topic: Dongle backup, etc

Sadly, I am on 11, so I can only imagine what 12 would be like!!

I appreciate your suggestion, sorry, I should have clarified that I am on 11.

I’m on Alder Lake CPU (i512600K) - Windows 11 - Cubase 12.0.40 - Focusrite 2i4 First gen (128 Buffer).
All is completely stable for me now. But I needed to do two things:

  1. Disable the track record auto-arming - this irradicated one source of glitches.
  2. Set ASIO Guard to work with my buffer size - in my case I run ASIO guard on Low. This irradicated the other source of glitches.
    (all of this I learnt from threads in this forum - if you search you will find them)

I have Steinberg Power Scheme enabled and Hyperthreading - Everything is standard in my BIOS other than disabling the on-board audie for my motherboard.
When I run Cubase and look at Resource Monitor - all my cores are being used.

That is great man but for me is a different story with the 12900k, it is also worth noting Steinberg themselves have encountered this E-Core problem after I reported it around 4-5 months ago.
There is an increase in performance with the Steinberg Power Scheme off, an increase in performance when using the Windows High Performance mode and even better performance when Bitsum was used. I also made a private video demonstrating this and the experiment is repeatable, consistent with no deviation between sessions whether the session was populated or blank, you immediately see the difference in the Cubase performance meter as u switch power schemes.

Appreciate what your saying. Does seem weird that some folks are now at a stable point and others aren’t. Do you think this might be down to other things as it doesn’t seem to be a consistent CPU, OS, Cubase version or Cubase setting that is causing the problems?

Big Steinberg fan here. But ain’t gonna lie…So many freezes/crashes w C12 N12. :frowning: I re-create the projects in Reaper and have no issues. Hope this is sorted sometime soon.

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I’ve been using Cubase since the mid-90s and it’s always been Crash-base.

I was finally stoked they did away with the dongle, but Cubase is now crashing predictably on the daily. All I have to do is leave it idle for a couple hours, and when I come back it is unresponsive with the spinning beach ball. It really is just a hopeless love affair of charity.

Date/Time:        2022-08-20 22:39:25 -0700
End time:         2022-08-20 22:42:18 -0700
OS Version:       Mac OS X 10.15.7 (Build 19H2)
Architecture:     x86_64h
Report Version:   29
Incident Identifier: AAD9963E-ADA6-4F27-B363-88834DD4A10A

Data Source:      Microstackshots
Shared Cache:     0x7a1d000 36D46BEB-2CFA-3420-AFA6-C3DBF146A27D

Command:          Cubase 12
Path:             /Applications/Cubase 12.app/Contents/MacOS/Cubase 12
Identifier:       com.steinberg.cubase12
Version:          12.0.40.317 (12.0.40.317)
PID:              22352

Event:            cpu usage
Action taken:     none
CPU:              90 seconds cpu time over 173 seconds (52% cpu average), exceeding limit of 50% cpu over 180 seconds
CPU limit:        90s
Limit duration:   180s
CPU used:         90s
CPU duration:     173s
Duration:         172.83s
Duration Sampled: 92.01s
Steps:            52

Hardware model:   MacBookPro11,3
Active cpus:      8

Fan speed:        2591 rpm

Heaviest stack for the target process:
  52  start + 1 (libdyld.dylib + 109769) [0x7fff6ebd9cc9]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 29429035) [0x10849bd2b]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 29406003) [0x108496333]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 58512158) [0x10a05831e]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 58511824) [0x10a0581d0]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 29403852) [0x108495acc]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 18729241) [0x107a67919]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 19255120) [0x107ae7f50]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 59880653) [0x10a1a64cd]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 59019156) [0x10a0d3f94]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 60976416) [0x10a2b1d20]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 29432183) [0x10849c977]
  52  -[NSApplication runModalForWindow:] + 128 (AppKit + 3408809) [0x7fff320db3a9]
  52  _NSTryRunModal + 100 (AppKit + 3409092) [0x7fff320db4c4]
  52  __35-[NSApplication runModalForWindow:]_block_invoke + 70 (AppKit + 3410994) [0x7fff320dbc32]
  52  __35-[NSApplication runModalForWindow:]_block_invoke_2 + 64 (AppKit + 3411077) [0x7fff320dbc85]
  52  -[NSApplication _doModalLoop:peek:] + 315 (AppKit + 3415794) [0x7fff320dcef2]
  52  -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 1352 (AppKit + 260224) [0x7fff31dda880]
  52  _DPSNextEvent + 883 (AppKit + 266297) [0x7fff31ddc039]
  52  _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 64 (HIToolbox + 193913) [0x7fff33796579]
  52  ReceiveNextEventCommon + 584 (HIToolbox + 194517) [0x7fff337967d5]
  52  RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 292 (HIToolbox + 195261) [0x7fff33796abd]
  52  CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 462 (CoreFoundation + 532030) [0x7fff34b69e3e]
  52  __CFRunLoopRun + 1871 (CoreFoundation + 535530) [0x7fff34b6abea]
  52  __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 322 (CoreFoundation + 646727) [0x7fff34b85e47]
  52  __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 859 (CoreFoundation + 648031) [0x7fff34b8635f]
  52  __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 20 (CoreFoundation + 649209) [0x7fff34b867f9]
  52  __NSFireTimer + 67 (Foundation + 783082) [0x7fff372642ea]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 60842389) [0x10a291195]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 58847428) [0x10a0aa0c4]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 55402416) [0x109d60fb0]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 58856246) [0x10a0ac336]
  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 19258120) [0x107ae8b08]
  27  ??? (Cubase 12 + 19255601) [0x107ae8131]
  27  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56015218) [0x109df6972]
  25  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56015516) [0x109df6a9c]
  25  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56446386) [0x109e5fdb2]
  11  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56447672) [0x109e602b8]
  10  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56492471) [0x109e6b1b7]
  10  FSPathMakeRefInternal(unsigned char const*, unsigned int, FSRef*, unsigned char*) + 124 (CarbonCore + 79221) [0x7fff35f6a575]
  6   PathGetObjectInfo(char const*, unsigned int, short*, unsigned int*, unsigned int*, char*, unsigned int*, unsigned char*, unsigned long long*, unsigned long long*, unsigned long long*) + 146 (CarbonCore + 79573) [0x7fff35f6a6d5]
  6   __getattrlist + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib + 5746) [0x7fff6ed1b672]


Powerstats for:   Cubase 12 (Cubase) [22352]
UUID:             E48E33F3-A0A3-3F79-9212-3E5DA34C5A5C
Path:             /Applications/Cubase 12.app/Contents/MacOS/Cubase 12
Architecture:     x86_64
Footprint:        66.41 MB
Start time:       2022-08-20 22:40:46 -0700
End time:         2022-08-20 22:42:18 -0700
Num samples:      52 (100%)
CPU Time:         87.080s
Primary state:    35 samples Frontmost App, Non-Suppressed, Kernel mode, Effective Thread QoS User Interactive, Requested Thread QoS User Interactive, Override Thread QoS Unspecified
User Activity:    0 samples Idle, 52 samples Active
Power Source:     0 samples on Battery, 52 samples on AC
  52  start + 1 (libdyld.dylib + 109769) [0x7fff6ebd9cc9]
    52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 29429035) [0x10849bd2b]
      52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 29406003) [0x108496333]
        52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 58512158) [0x10a05831e]
          52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 58511824) [0x10a0581d0]
            52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 29403852) [0x108495acc]
              52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 18729241) [0x107a67919]
                52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 19255120) [0x107ae7f50]
                  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 59880653) [0x10a1a64cd]
                    52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 59019156) [0x10a0d3f94]
                      52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 60976416) [0x10a2b1d20]
                        52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 29432183) [0x10849c977]
                          52  -[NSApplication runModalForWindow:] + 128 (AppKit + 3408809) [0x7fff320db3a9]
                            52  _NSTryRunModal + 100 (AppKit + 3409092) [0x7fff320db4c4]
                              52  __35-[NSApplication runModalForWindow:]_block_invoke + 70 (AppKit + 3410994) [0x7fff320dbc32]
                                52  __35-[NSApplication runModalForWindow:]_block_invoke_2 + 64 (AppKit + 3411077) [0x7fff320dbc85]
                                  52  -[NSApplication _doModalLoop:peek:] + 315 (AppKit + 3415794) [0x7fff320dcef2]
                                    52  -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 1352 (AppKit + 260224) [0x7fff31dda880]
                                      52  _DPSNextEvent + 883 (AppKit + 266297) [0x7fff31ddc039]
                                        52  _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 64 (HIToolbox + 193913) [0x7fff33796579]
                                          52  ReceiveNextEventCommon + 584 (HIToolbox + 194517) [0x7fff337967d5]
                                            52  RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 292 (HIToolbox + 195261) [0x7fff33796abd]
                                              52  CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 462 (CoreFoundation + 532030) [0x7fff34b69e3e]
                                                52  __CFRunLoopRun + 1871 (CoreFoundation + 535530) [0x7fff34b6abea]
                                                  52  __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 322 (CoreFoundation + 646727) [0x7fff34b85e47]
                                                    52  __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 859 (CoreFoundation + 648031) [0x7fff34b8635f]
                                                      52  __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 20 (CoreFoundation + 649209) [0x7fff34b867f9]
                                                        52  __NSFireTimer + 67 (Foundation + 783082) [0x7fff372642ea]
                                                          52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 60842389) [0x10a291195]
                                                            52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 58847428) [0x10a0aa0c4]
                                                              52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 55402416) [0x109d60fb0]
                                                                52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 58856246) [0x10a0ac336]
                                                                  52  ??? (Cubase 12 + 19258120) [0x107ae8b08]
                                                                    27  ??? (Cubase 12 + 19255601) [0x107ae8131]
                                                                      27  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56015218) [0x109df6972]
                                                                        25  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56015516) [0x109df6a9c]
                                                                          25  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56446386) [0x109e5fdb2]
                                                                            11  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56447672) [0x109e602b8]
                                                                              10  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56492471) [0x109e6b1b7]
                                                                                10  FSPathMakeRefInternal(unsigned char const*, unsigned int, FSRef*, unsigned char*) + 124 (CarbonCore + 79221) [0x7fff35f6a575]
                                                                                  6   PathGetObjectInfo(char const*, unsigned int, short*, unsigned int*, unsigned int*, char*, unsigned int*, unsigned char*, unsigned long long*, unsigned long long*, unsigned long long*) + 146 (CarbonCore + 79573) [0x7fff35f6a6d5]
                                                                                    6   __getattrlist + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib + 5746) [0x7fff6ed1b672]
                                                                                  4   PathGetObjectInfo(char const*, unsigned int, short*, unsigned int*, unsigned int*, char*, unsigned int*, unsigned char*, unsigned long long*, unsigned long long*, unsigned long long*) + 809 (CarbonCore + 80236) [0x7fff35f6a96c]
                                                                                    2   __getattrlist + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib + 5746) [0x7fff6ed1b672]
                                                                                    1   GetPathVolFSAttributes(char const*, unsigned int, FSAttributeInfo*, unsigned int, unsigned char*) + 608 (CarbonCore + 82073) [0x7fff35f6b099]
                                                                                      1   os_unfair_lock_lock + 0 (libsystem_platform.dylib + 3818) [0x7fff6edcfeea]
                                                                                        1   <User mode>
                                                                                    1   GetPathVolFSAttributes(char const*, unsigned int, FSAttributeInfo*, unsigned int, unsigned char*) + 457 (CarbonCore + 81922) [0x7fff35f6b002]
                                                                                      1   FSMount::FSMount(unsigned int, FSMountNumberType, int*, unsigned int const*) + 85 (CarbonCore + 17333) [0x7fff35f5b3b5]
                                                                                        1   FileIDTreeGetAndLockVolumeEntryForDeviceID + 83 (CarbonCore + 17665) [0x7fff35f5b501]
                                                                                          1   FileIDTree_FindVolumeRecordFromDeviceID + 58 (CarbonCore + 22071) [0x7fff35f5c637]
                                                                                            1   FSNodeEntry_FindByFileID + 198 (CarbonCore + 22966) [0x7fff35f5c9b6]
                                                                                              1   _SCUniverseGetEntryAddress + 55 (CarbonCore + 22559) [0x7fff35f5c81f]
                                                                                                1   <User mode>
                                                                              1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56492445) [0x109e6b19d]
                                                                                1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56495000) [0x109e6bb98]
                                                                                  1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 48897279) [0x10972ccff]
                                                                                    1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 48895063) [0x10972c457]
                                                                                      1   CFStringCreateWithCharactersNoCopy + 45 (CoreFoundation + 74223) [0x7fff34afa1ef]
                                                                                        1   __CFStringCreateImmutableFunnel3 + 2109 (CoreFoundation + 11301) [0x7fff34aeac25]
                                                                                          1   <User mode>
                                                                            7   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56447965) [0x109e603dd]
                                                                              7   FSIsAliasFile + 90 (CarbonCore + 346887) [0x7fff35fabb07]
                                                                                7   FSGetCatalogInfo + 46 (CarbonCore + 127165) [0x7fff35f760bd]
                                                                                  7   PBGetCatalogInfoSync + 375 (CarbonCore + 127562) [0x7fff35f7624a]
                                                                                    7   GetFSRefAttributes(FSMount*, FSRef const*, unsigned int, FSAttributeInfo*, unsigned int, char*) + 123 (CarbonCore + 86091) [0x7fff35f6c04b]
                                                                                      7   FSMount::getattrs(unsigned int, char const*, unsigned int, unsigned int, FSAttributeInfo*, unsigned int, unsigned char*) + 226 (CarbonCore + 86458) [0x7fff35f6c1ba]
                                                                                        7   FSMount::_getattrs(unsigned int, char const*, unsigned int, unsigned int, FSAttributeInfo*, unsigned int, unsigned char*) + 174 (CarbonCore + 86702) [0x7fff35f6c2ae]
                                                                                          7   GetVolFSAttributes(FSMount*, unsigned int, char const*, unsigned int, unsigned int, FSAttributeInfo*, unsigned int, unsigned int, FSVolAttributeInfo*, unsigned char*) + 763 (CarbonCore + 68503) [0x7fff35f67b97]
                                                                                            5   getattrlist_retry(FSMount*, unsigned int, char const*, unsigned int, attrlist*, void*, unsigned int, unsigned int) + 96 (CarbonCore + 72439) [0x7fff35f68af7]
                                                                                              4   fsgetpath + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib + 14942) [0x7fff6ed1da5e]
                                                                                              1   VolFSCreatePathFromIDs(FSMount*, unsigned int, char const*, unsigned int, unsigned char, char*) + 185 (CarbonCore + 73081) [0x7fff35f68d79]
                                                                                                1   FIDCopyFileIDMapForVolume + 362 (CarbonCore + 74067) [0x7fff35f69153]
                                                                                                  1   CFRetain + 27 (CoreFoundation + 14774) [0x7fff34aeb9b6]
                                                                                                    1   <User mode>
                                                                                            2   __getattrlist + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib + 5746) [0x7fff6ed1b672]
                                                                            2   stat$INODE64 + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib + 9014) [0x7fff6ed1c336]
                                                                            1   lstat$INODE64 + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib + 30510) [0x7fff6ed2172e]
                                                                            1   lstat$INODE64 + 0 (libsystem_kernel.dylib + 30500) [0x7fff6ed21724]
                                                                              1   <User mode>
                                                                            1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56447645) [0x109e6029d]
                                                                              1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 48938819) [0x109736f43]
                                                                                1   CFStringLowercase + 409 (CoreFoundation + 352635) [0x7fff34b3e17b]
                                                                                  1   <User mode>
                                                                            1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56447613) [0x109e6027d]
                                                                              1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56534735) [0x109e756cf]
                                                                                1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 48922161) [0x109732e31]
                                                                                  1   <User mode>
                                                                            1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56446992) [0x109e60010]
                                                                              1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 48898134) [0x10972d056]
                                                                                1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 48894546) [0x10972c252]
                                                                                  1   CFStringCreateWithCString + 73 (CoreFoundation + 9180) [0x7fff34aea3dc]
                                                                                    1   __CFStringCreateImmutableFunnel3 + 1994 (CoreFoundation + 11186) [0x7fff34aeabb2]
                                                                                      1   __CFStrHashEightBit2 + 46 (CoreFoundation + 12688) [0x7fff34aeb190]
                                                                                        1   <User mode>
                                                                        1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56015731) [0x109df6b73]
                                                                          1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 48906252) [0x10972f00c]
                                                                            1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 48907837) [0x10972f63d]
                                                                              1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 48898181) [0x10972d085]
                                                                                1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 48894713) [0x10972c2f9]
                                                                                  1   __CFStringEncodeByteStream + 461 (CoreFoundation + 169213) [0x7fff34b114fd]
                                                                                    1   CFStringGetCharacters + 94 (CoreFoundation + 64661) [0x7fff34af7c95]
                                                                                      1   <User mode>
                                                                        1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56015339) [0x109df69eb]
                                                                          1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56488446) [0x109e6a1fe]
                                                                            1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56487364) [0x109e69dc4]
                                                                              1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56486263) [0x109e69977]
                                                                                1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 48897279) [0x10972ccff]
                                                                                  1   ??? (Cubase 12 + 48895063) [0x10972c457]
                                                                                    1   CFStringCreateWithCharactersNoCopy + 45 (CoreFoundation + 74223) [0x7fff34afa1ef]
                                                                                      1   __CFStringCreateImmutableFunnel3 + 1828 (CoreFoundation + 11020) [0x7fff34aeab0c]
                                                                                        1   _CFRuntimeCreateInstance + 561 (CoreFoundation + 13695) [0x7fff34aeb57f]
                                                                                          1   object_setClass + 381 (libobjc.A.dylib + 38530) [0x7fff6da27682]
                                                                                            1   <User mode>
                                                                    25  ??? (Cubase 12 + 19255617) [0x107ae8141]
                                                                      25  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56020692) [0x109df7ed4]
                                                                        23  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56015516) [0x109df6a9c]
                                                                          23  ??? (Cubase 12 + 56446386) [0x109e5fdb2]
                                                                            8   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56447672) [0x109e602b8]
                                                                              8   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56492471) [0x109e6b1b7]
                                                                                8   FSPathMakeRefInternal(unsigned char const*, unsigned int, FSRef*, unsigned char*) + 124 (CarbonCore + 79221) [0x7fff35f6a575]
                                                                                  5   PathGetObjectInfo(char const*, unsigned int, short*, unsigned int*, unsigned int*, char*, unsigned int*, unsigned char*, unsigned long long*, unsigned long long*, unsigned long long*) + 146 (CarbonCore + 79573) [0x7fff35f6a6d5]
                                                                                    5   __getattrlist + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib + 5746) [0x7fff6ed1b672]
                                                                                  3   PathGetObjectInfo(char const*, unsigned int, short*, unsigned int*, unsigned int*, char*, unsigned int*, unsigned char*, unsigned long long*, unsigned long long*, unsigned long long*) + 809 (CarbonCore + 80236) [0x7fff35f6a96c]
                                                                                    2   __getattrlist + 10 (libsystem_kernel.dylib + 5746) [0x7fff6ed1b672]
                                                                                    1   GetPathVolFSAttributes(char const*, unsigned int, FSAttributeInfo*, unsigned int, unsigned char*) + 457 (CarbonCore + 81922) [0x7fff35f6b002]
                                                                                      1   getCorrectedDevice(unsigned int) + 0 (CarbonCore + 17458) [0x7fff35f5b432]
                                                                                        1   <User mode>
                                                                            6   ??? (Cubase 12 + 56447965) [0x109e603dd]
                                                                              6   FSIsAliasFile + 90 (CarbonCore + 346887) [0x7fff35fabb07]
                                                                                6   FSGetCatalogInfo + 46 (CarbonCore + 127165) [0x7fff35f760bd]
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I think like all computers, if u build 2 systems exactly the same one will be different, at the end of the day Cubase works fine for me with Bitsum enabled. Steinberg did inform me a while ago they contacted Intel on the issue and Steinberg will have to implement the applicable API to deal with the Alderlake architecture but as u say, if some peoples systems are fine and others are not I do not know where this is on the Steinberg ‘TO DO LIST’ unless enough people reports the same problem.
Going down the line E-Cores are not going away, all new CPU’s from Intel going forward will have E-Cores so this may motivate Steinberg to do something about it, well I would hope.

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12.0.50 - still unusable on low buffer sizes :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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I’m using almost everyday in recording. 32 buffer to monitor with plugins.
Everything ok
Check your cpu load, maybe some 3rd party software use all of it

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No, it’s C12 problem. C11 in same projects works as it should, C12 has constant spikes (dancing ASIO meter + audio dropouts)

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Can you share your specs?
Because i’m using Cubase 12 in 3 different machines (windows), and 1 old macbook late 2011 via bootcamp. At all this machines i can easily use low buffers 32-64.