If you haven’t noticed, it’s an on-going refinement. Remember what happened with C7? It took some time.
While you didn’t give any specific examples, there are plenty of others in similar posts who have. If you are addressing how elements look in the mix console, or left zones Project page including the fonts, certain lines, backing colors etc…
Have a bit more patience. I’m confident Steinberg can eventually reach a threshold where not all, but a lot of users including myself recognize it’s looking closer to C12, and some nice improvements is not that far off.
There is also something to be said about anything taking time to adjust. After a few months if things are still not your liking, then give in and stay with C12. But at this point, I would allow a little more…patience.
I understand what you’re saying and I don’t fully disagree.
I haven’t purchased v13 yet. Not only because of the GUI design direction, but in part. I personally dislike the design direction many software developers are taking. Focus seems to be put exclusively on how aesthetically pleasing the GUI looks and not so much from a functional aspect. I find this to be true in Cubase 12 as well. Every toolbar button is monochromatic and similarly designed.
In my mind, a user interface of an engineering tool should focus on ease of use, not how pretty it looks. As a result, I find I have to look for an extra second to make sure I click the right button.
Here’s an example of a toolbar from another engineering software I’ve used a lot in the past. (Not audio related). It might not look pretty, but just from adding a little bit of color, it’s a lot quicker to find the one you’re looking for.
I know Steinbergs UI has never been very colorful, not even in the SX days. But, at least for me, it was easier to distinguish the different buttons from eachother.
Since I don’t rely on Cubase as a form of income (only for personal enjoyment) I usually don’t upgrade that often. I only upgrade when there is a big step forward in the underlying engine or other major change. Various GUI changes and the more upper level esoteric capabilities are of no concern to me.
I wonder how some of you folks reacted when things like Windows XP and Windows Vista and 8 came out and if the whole OMG THIS DOESNT LOOK LIKE WIN95 OR DOS ANYMORE I CANT USE THIS AT ALL hysteria happened then too (if you were even old enough to remember that)… I don’t remember a whole lot of uproar when Mac OS X came out and worked and looked nothing like OS 9 (in fact everybody was pretty excited about it).
GUI changes happen folks (not to mention Steinberg has already commented they are ‘working on it’). The entire workforce didn’t collapse when Microsoft introduced the ribbon in Office. People adjusted to their tools and got over it and got their work done instead of slagging off crying about it and losing productivity.
I don’t think most people have an issue with GUI changes if they simplify, improve or speed up your workflow. Therefore I think your analogies are false.
I’d still like highlighted tracks to be more “white” so they can stand out a little better. But otherwise I’m living with the new UI and am okay with it.
12 didn’t take some getting used to?!? Work flow improvements are always disruptive, and that may be evident on 13, but I don’t mind Steinberg moving forward. I’ll participate. $100 a year (voluntary) is a very doable way of financially supporting this excellent application. Stay on your favorite version until you have a good opportunity to move up.
They respond to my suggestions. Nothing has made it in yet, but I have been told they are working on it (I wasn’t the first to suggest it) or why it would be problematic (also not the first to suggest it).
Some DAWS have been pretty stagnant or worse yet, they think they are so fluid they need subscription models (Steinberg, whatever arguments are going on in the boardroom right now, DO NOT MOVE TO A SUBSCRIPTION MODEL).
Now to plug my request. I need a light theme. Light/bright background with dark text, graphs, and controls. Not everybody’s studio is a dark cave. We’ve been off CRTs for a while now. Turn those pixels on. The extra brightness really helps us with poorer vision.
I still dont feel like certain changes are an improvement. For instance, I think the decision to make another channel strip for the left was a mistake. Whatever was missing from the inspector should have been designed into the inspector and left at that. Now we have two GUI elements are almost the same but certain features missing from either. Sometimes I don’t know where to be looking or things like routing. Its all over the place.
The Inspector gets really cluttered really quickly. That’s the core issue. “Designing more stuff into the inspector” is why the Channel Tab was needed - or at least why it “makes sense to have.”
Channel Tab doesn’t offer anything the Inspector cannot do. What it does offer is the ability to access those functions in a smaller panel when those are all you need - at which point you simply hide the inspector altogether.
So, you’re sort of missing the fundamental point of the Channel Tab.
I understand your point but I must say I love having a fader in the inspector. I use it every day now. But everybody has different needs and wants so I suppose it’s next to impossible to providea UI which can deliver for everyone.
The new hideable inspector is not a very concerning thing IMO… It’s the GUI overall, especially in the mixer view that really annoys me… Each to our own
