I am waiting for b9
I will see myself out 
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It would be awesome if — like at Reaper — someone from the company would get on here and say “We hear you and agree that certain aspects of the GUI didn’t work out as planned. Expect a fix in the next release.”
Instead, we gotta wait around like true believers for that “Someday, soon.”
Still, I have faith that the one true DAW is on its way.
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Haha Yes! I was thinking of him when I made my comment about flat 2.0 and 3.0.
He made a catchy song once. Odd cigar choice though.
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Yeah, well…
I am almost always an early adopter.
But I hate the way it looks.
Just from a practical point of view, everything is smaller and harder to see.
The inspector window is crowded and hard to read.
The mixer is terrible to look at.
And the lack of implementation of saving external effects routing is an absolute deal breaker.
I might open 13 occasionally to see if I can customize it a little so it does not destroy my eyes and for the new features, but I think I will just stick with 12 till 14 comes out.
And as a point of reference , I have been on Cubase since 1990 on an Atari computer.
Big step back visually.
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cubase 13 the menu bar now take more space
and the track number and icon cannot resize them
Why don’t they put the track number under the icon and save some wasted space?
cubase 11 the menu bar better for space but when u close one u will see another one 
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C13’s Mixer is so bad that I decided to go back to C12 for everything except orchestral projects (for which I can largely avoid using the Mixer).
Needless to say I will not pay for another Cubase update until they restore the usability of the Mixer to what we had in C12.
To be clear, this is not an aesthetic gripe. It’s a productivity gripe. I’m significantly less productive in C13 because I have to frequently slow down to zero-in on what I need to click because everything now is so uniform and blends together. And, no, it’s not a matter of getting used to a new GUI. I know where generally to find everything, since C13 is not that different from C12. It’s just that C13 is so much more difficult to navigate.
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I have Nuendo so haven’t experienced the new GUI yet, but based on C13 screenshots, I personally don’t mind the updated graphics and meters and everything in the mixer - but as so many other people have said, its all the white text in the buttons that seems a bit off putting. Also all the white text on the track headers in the arrange window. And the extremely bright/saturated Solo/Mute buttons
Other than the all the white text and bright buttons, I think it looks decent.
I will also say though that the inspector does seem a bit busy/crowded.
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The flat thing isn’t an issue. SOME of the new design is an improvement.
The issues for me are too much white on track buttons.
The increase in overall intensity and brightness of colours.
The lack of distinction in the top inspector track buttons.
The black under the mixer slider that now means less colour on each track, and harder differentiation between tracks.
I feel like they put in some good work and I feel bad that are getting so slammed. It’s not a complete failure. It just has some slight issues.
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The new UI is a huge and massively needed improvement. The old UI was a usability nightmare and long overdue for modernization.
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Right. The problem with C13 (vs C12) is that the interface is now much more busy/crowded. In C12 I moved around very quickly because everything stood out clearly. In C13 I find myself constantly stopping and hovering over an area while trying to find things.
For example, the Mixer highlighting is now so bad (in that it creates elements with nearly zero contrast ) that I actually have to move the highlight to an adjacent channel and then work on the previously highlighted channel. And when you do this a 100+ a day, all the extra time really adds up.
And the ‘scribble strips’ (where you record channel-specific info you want to save with a project) are narrower in C13 and so the text wraps sooner making it more difficult to read. So you now have to decrease the number of channels displayed just to read your notes. But then I have to increase the number displayed when I want to view the entire mix. In C12 I would set it to 50 channels once, and leave it there.
Another example is loading a VI. In C12 this was immediate. In C13 I have to hover-and-search in the general area to find the drop-down menu in the sea of all the other identical menus.
Enabling and disabling plugins also takes longer in C13. I disable all plugins and apply Constrain Delay when writing/arranging to offset the dramatic CPU increase from C11 to C12. I then re-enable them when I want to export the mix or check how it sounds with all FXs on.
Worst of all I have reverted to an all black mixer because C13’s coloring causes such severe loss of contrast between the readouts, knobs and buttons. Colored mixing channels was one of my favorite features when it was introduced! It was a hugh productivity boost. But now Steinberg made it unusable. Yes it does look good in the promo images/videos, buts that’s because they are only displaying a small number of channels. When you max out the number displayed, the screen looks like a tapestry rather than a mixing console.
Steinberg will neither acknowledge these shortcomings nor address them.
It’s eminently clear why Matthias Juwan and Wolfgang Kundrus left Steinberg to start their own DAW company (KristalLabs Software Ltd) which ultimately gave us Studio One. At this point I’m just waiting for it to mature a little bit more and then I’m going to switch and never look back.
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Oh I remember that. I beta tested the early release candidates of Kristal Audio Engine for Matthias back in 2003 before it went official. It had an SX feel to the GUI I recall. I’m glad he was able to expatiate his vision into what Studio One has become. Cubase needs competitors to stay competitive.
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On the Steinberg Dorico forum the product manager is very active every day and solves many problems, and at least listens to and notes all feature requests. There are also Dorico developers active on the forum. The support and responsive feedback is excellent.
It’s puzzling therefore the that Cubase product manager and developers completely ghost this forum, as far as I know. That’s a bad asymmetry. Especially currently when Cubase 13 is so messed up and the supposed unsolicited GUI changes have alienated many users.
Steinberg, could you do please something about this? [But then, I suppose they won’t read this. 
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wow 11 looks so much better in this side by side. 13 looks like some kid photo-shopped some ideas of what he wanted to see in a future version
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Im enjoying a lot of the new features and prefer most of the new look, but honestly the BRIGHT WHITE BOLD LETTERING on the tracks needs to be toned down. Less white, and thinner font. I know these things are subjective, but here is a comparison of Cubase vs Studio one:
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Studio One’s too dark imo , but Cubase fonts are too bright
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I can live with something in between. But really, its the bold font makes them so much brighter. And the endless large M and S for Mute and Solo need to be less bold and prominent.
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The new GUI is a prank,
Good one Steinberg, hahaha, we all had a good laugh, burning our eyes.
you can release the real GUI now, thanks.
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Just going on the screenshots posted and the video source…
The edited mixconsole view with the track colour behind the fader, just obliterates the fader channel dB markings. The new C13 default mixconsole, seems to look MUCH more readable (better than C12 even).
Remains to be seen ‘in real life’ when I actually get in front of it (not upgraded yet).
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The biggest issue I see in the C13 screenshot you shared is the lack of negative space around symbols. It’s just top to bottom stacked lettering and blends together.
They are trying to squeeze as much vertical space and have squeezed too much. They need to loosen the design to allow more space between text objects on the screen, even if it reduces lane/parameter count visible within the frame at a given time.
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