Okay, now I’ve found the RCE, which up until now I have not seen, so now your posts will make sense, I hope… so this is entirely separate from the MIDI Remote at the bottom…?
Yes, I see how easy it is to use but have yet to tie it in to my hardware controller…
To put it simply:
The MIDI Remote translates for your hardware controller. It is its job to receive the messages, and create virtual elements, all these pots and sliders you see.
Then, the Mapping Assistant allow us to connect those virtual elements to functions within the software.
The RCE is the special thingy that allows us to manage and re-order how any plug-in (audio or vst instrument) presents its parameters. Everything you see in a plug-in, almost everything, the cutoff knob, ADSR sliders, whether the strings of the virtual bass are new or old, whether the virtual piano’s tuning is 440 or 442, they’re all Parameters.
Here’s a step-by-step that I had written for another member. It’s not hard once everything comes together.
Edit: This writeup is for Insert Plug-ins. For virtual instruments, we should use the parameters found under “Instrument” in Selected track.
Wow, wonderful, thank you so much… I haven’t actually read through your post yet (but I will later when I have more time), but I already have the RCE controlling my instrument, with MIDI Remote controlling the RCE via my Mixface CC assignments - brilliant! Thank you to you all for your help; I’m sure I have more than enough information to be getting on with - have a great day!
One last thing, and it may already be in the info above, but is there a short-cut for opening the RCE? Can it be assigned to a button on my controller?
Hi, you can easily create a shortcut with a button of your liking under Shortcuts/Midi Remote
I take it that when you are referring to Shortcuts you mean Key Commands, yes? But it’s the Remote Control Editor page that I want a shortcut for, not the MIDI Remote.
Yes, I meant key commands - got lost in translation… And sorry, I was referring to the wrong editor, my bad!
No worries, it’s not a biggie, but it doesn’t seem to be on the list… but I just have to say how amazing it is to have all you guys (and gals, I hope) out there to offer such great assistance - thank you all!
Hey Guys… been all blooming evening at this and something is just not right… I’m sure someone will put me right on this…
I have two instrtument tracks and 8 knobs assigned using the mapping assistant Selected Track/Instrument/Parameters/Actions/Parameters 1-8… I have mapped the parameters to my controller knobs and then mapped them to the plugin instrument controls (just using 8 knobs to test things out). I’ve been folllowing ggmanestraki’s instructions as well as I can.
In the mapping assistant I have the focus of each track set to Selected Track.
In the RCE I have assigned/mapped the controls to the parameters that I want and ‘Applied’ them using that button. BUT, when I switch between tracks, one of my plugins (Serum) keeps defaulting to some other set of assignments, not the ones that I have set. Is this a Serum issue, I wonder, or am I missing something? I assume that by hitting ‘Apply’ in the RCE that it locks my new assignments… but then it doesn’t… very frustrating and I’m going to bed a bit frustrated. Actually, I’ve just noticed that my other plugin is doing the same, just resorting to some preset assignments, not my new ones, so I don’t think it’s a plugin issue… Looking forward to some responses, though I might not pick things up until after work. Cheers.
Well, it’s 4.45 in the morning and I couldn’t sleep because the damn thing has beeen running round my head, so excuse me if I sound a bit grumpy, but I had an idea and it still isn’t working, as in when I change track the knob assignment is not what I programmed or even what’s on the labelling in the Remote Control Editor. So, two questions: Is there a unique instance of the RCE editor for each plugin or is the RCE shared by all plugins, because you can only seemingly have one RCE opened at one time. I expect it’s the former, but what do I know?
Secondly, when, in the Mapping Assistant, you assign, in the Functions Browser, Selected Track/Instrument/Parameters the number of parameters to your hardware controller knobs, this presumably is so that the software knows you are working on a ‘selected track’ basis… so why on Earth do you find that in the main mapping page the Focus is not set to track, it’s set to Fixed?? I have been going into each mapping line and manually changing it to Selected Track. Am I doing this right? Because it seems like an unnecessary and annoying step. So, somebody please explain if I am remotely (no pun intended) on the right track and particularly respond to my two questions above. I am going back to bed and am inches away from abandonning Cubase forever…
Hi, I assume that your control surface looks something like this:
We open the mapping assistant window:
Here, from the right tab, we expand Selected Track→Instrument→Parameters. Then for our first control, we select Parameter 1, we choose our very first control by clicking it on the left side, and then we hit Apply Mapping.
We should now see in the bottom frame of the left window our first assignment.
Now, we proceed by doing the same thing for the remaining 2-8 parameters and knobs (or faders), so in the end we have this:
We see all our assignments to Parameters 1-8 of the instrument of the selected track. Note that by “Selected Track” we don’t mean the track that is currently selected. It’s a general definition for whichever track we select in the future.
That’s it with the MIDI Remote, we can now close this window.
Now, we’ll see the following picture of the MIDI Remote, while our Project doesn’t contain any track at all yet:
Let’s add an instrument track for a VST we wish to edit the instrument quick controls. I chose Serum because it is a popular VST and many users have it already:
We now see that the Quick Controls as presented in the top of the Serum window, are reflected on our MIDI Remote, for example, we see the A Pan in both windows as the very first parameter.
Let’s say now that we want to change this A Pan to something else, for example, the Env2 Atk.
We open the Remote Control Editor:
We select the very first parameter slot which shows the A Pan, then we click on the Knob combo box and we have the list shown in the above screenshot. From this list, we select the Env2 Atk.
Our Remote Control Editor Window now shows:
We can proceed by editing in the same way, whichever parameter slot we wish. Once happy with our settings, we have to hit Apply:
That’s it. We can now close the Remote Control Editor window, since we have properly setup our Serum Layout.
Now, here’s a critical point. The instance of Serum that we have already loaded, most probably won’t immediately sync to the new parameters layout in the MIDI Remote. We have to ignore this.
We can proceed by altering other VSTs we wish to, or we can for example try saving this project. If we save it, close it and reopen it, we will now see that the correct assignments are there.
Here’s an example with two Serum instances:
As we can see in the MIDI Remote Window, our first parameter is now correctly shown.
That’s the whole procedure. Not sure which part you missed, or (as I suppose) you’ve added steps in the middle.
Thank you very much, mc, I appreciate your effort on my behalf. I’m now rested and looking at things afresh, so let me summarise briefly what I’m still not sure about; btw I have carried out the above operation but wasn’t aware of the time delay, so maybe that was part of the problem.
Anyway, I’ll get stuck back in later and see how things go, but clarification on the above would be greatly appreciated!
Okay, okay, here’s where I differ from you but perhaps get to the same place, so, please, if my first queries above can be answered, then that would really help, but NOW… once I have my parameters mapped to the knobs and closed down the mapping editor, like yours, my MIDI Remote just displays Paramerter 1,2,etc., but then when I open Serum and select QC at top right, my parameters in MIDI remote DO NOT update, even after restarting. But I can use Serum’s ‘Learn’ function to assign them, all without going into the Rmote Control Editor at all… so in this case, why did you need to open the RCE? But for anything other than QC I can see where it is needed - I think.
Also… sorry!.. why close down the mapping assistant window when, other than in your case above where you’re just using quick controls, you’re going to need it open to hit the ‘Apply Mapping’ box…?
I have actually given up and will return to using cc messages… something is not right, despite my best efforts, and I can’t afford to waste any more of my time on this. The RCE looks like a piece of crap from the 80s anyway and seems a misfit with the more up-to-date MIDI Remote, imho…
You don’t “create” an instance of the Remote Control Editor to edit the mapping of VST parameters for any VSTi or VSTfx. The mapping is done once per plugin, not per instance.
That’s perfectly fine.
When you map your controller to Selected Track→Instrument→Parameters and you have adjusted the parameters mapping using the RCE, leave QC out of it. It’s a different entity and not related to what you just done.
The graphical interface does look very dated. But functionally it works.
Sorry to butt in but i can’t even set the control surface up. It is not reacting to any nob, slider or button movements! I know this is something to do with setup but what do i do in setup?
I have had this problem before.
You have to understand that this is some deep stuff what me and alot of other people deal with on midi remote.
Here is how i current have setup, does something need altering?
I really appreciate that the is guys like you on here to help the lay-person like me, we’d be screwed without you guys.
Yes, I remember the case. You actually solved it by reloading the script:
Yes, but it’s not relevant to the issue you’re describing. You have to uncheck the MIDIIN2 port from the “In All MIDI Inputs”. The way it is now, you may here unwanted notes coming from the device.
I would suggest that you post relevant issues to the wiki thread I already have
, because for example this thread here is for another thing 
Hi Minas,
What a great memory you have!
Anyway, that was your script i was referring to in that particular post, not this.
On this one you have done a flow of SS’s to help John_Paul_Irvine, and that has especially helped me as well.
But what confused me was i could not create control surface because i was on DAW control on my arturia mk2 (which is what your script is on) when i need to be on USER control which i have just sussed out.
Little things help.
Cheers Minas
John
Hi Minas
Now it will not let me add a BUTTON for such as next page and transport?
It is only letting me add knobs and Faders! Why?
