Hi everyone, I have a couple of questions about using Omnivocal….
I am doing an 8 bar chorus of ‘aahs’ with 4 parts; soprano, alto, tenor and bass. The Soprano and Alto are the female voice, the Tenor and Bass are the male voice.
When listening to the tracks both as all 4 voices as well as individually, I can’t seem to get rid of the ‘scooping’ of the notes. Even the very first note of the track is scooped, and I am trying to get it to accurately just hit the proper midi note and not scoop at all. I have tried a number of variable settings and no matter what I seem to choose, the scooping is there. It is almost like the singer has portamento selected.
The MIDI notes are accurate and quantized to be what they should be. I have tried to leave a beat between some of the notes and the next, but, no matter what, the scoop is still there.
I have varied Velocities, there is no pitchbend or any type of controller inputs, strictly the midi notes themselves, and they don’t scoop, but the vocalist does.
I imagine that someone else has most likely run into this issue, and I am wondering what you may have done to solve it?
I appreciate your input on this issue. Thanks very much!
It’s not just you!
I have the same effect - straight MIDI notes, constant velocity input, but Omni Vocal introduces the scoops.
I’m have been trying Omni vocal because I think it has great potential in preparing practice tracks for my choirs *but* the scoop/wobble at the beginning of most of the notes makes it unusable. I don’t doubt that the vocal effect is great/characterful in certain genres of music but it isn’t appropriate at all when you are trying to prepare a track for choral singers to learn their notes accurately in a ‘classical’ setting.
I thought that setting the singer to ‘Straight’ might have helped but it doesn’t, neither does removing the vibrato nor reducing the ‘power’ setting. Is there anything I have missed?
I hope that there is something I’ve missed, or that an option not to scoop at the beginning of notes can be added before it comes out of beta testing.
Many thanks for any insight that can be offered.
Michael
Thanks very much for verifying that you are experiencing the same thing that I am! I have spent a lot of hours trying to figure out how to get rid of the scooping issue. I have tried inputting the MIDI notes manually, I have tried extending and shortening note lengths, I have copied my MIDI Guide vocal track directly, etc.
I have also tried all of the different power and attack, etc. that you have, often reducing them to a ‘0’ setting but the vocalist is very persistent in singing that scooping style…lol.
If it wasn’t for that, it would be a really decent way to use for demonstrating the vocal harmonies you are trying for. Without the scooping and then adding a bit of vibrato at different points it would be very useful.
I imagine because it is a ‘beta’ version that perhaps in future updates, that might be looked at and addressed.
I thought I was missing some little trick or doing something wrong that was causing it, but it doesn’t look that way. I even did a Google search about the scooping issue and it verified that it is a known issue, and, likely due to it being a beta version.
Thanks again for your verification!
Have a good day, and thanks for responding to my post!
It’s funny, I was experimenting with it as well, and have found the same thing you mentioned. If it could recognize the proper midi note without have to chase for it at the beginning of each note it would help. I have tried adjusting the speed, sensitivity, etc. and found the same…no luck. The speed can make it really crazy, but there doesn’t seem to be an accurate setting that doesn’t start the semitone below and then catch up.
I am hoping that in the next update for OmniVocal that this might be fixed, and I do understand it is still in Beta, but, without the scooping, it would be very close to ideal!