cubase 8 64 bit crashing at start, trying to load triton


I have recently upgraded from cubase elements 7 to cubase elements 8.

But I can not get the 64 to start it reaches the “Pick template” screen freezes then crashes,
I have noticed that it says it trying to load in Triton setup in the back round. I do own a Triton taktile 49.

The 64bit version of 7 did work.

I have done the following.

Installed Cubase 32 and it works.
uninstalled and re-installed cubase 64 and 32.
uninstalled and re-installed elicences
uninstalled and tried with all the taktile drivers and Triton drivers gone.
Change Aiso drivers.
Changed interface device.
checked for updates, could not find any (Think i am on the latest build)
unplugged the Triton and started the software.
made sure windows is up to date.

on top of it i have a few VST3 I cant get the 32 bit version to find.

I am running windows 7 ultimate 64 bit. 16 gigs of ram 2.5 tb of hard drive space. 4th gen I5.

I am not sure what the problem is and would love the 64 bit to work.

Thank you all for the help in advance.