Can people please stop pretending that JBridge is the cure-all?
It isn’t. JBridge doesn’t work with legacy native Steinberg plugs. If this isn’t a problem for you, then that’s great - for some of us, it is a workflow killer, a total showstopper.
Well then I suppose Cubase 9 isn’t for you. What is the issue? You still have your previous version where the legacy plugs work right? If you choose not to move forward then enjoy that. Nobody is making you change.
I am going to stay with Windows 7 till I can’t. Best!
Yep kill 32bit is done and dusted, over! finito!
So much better.
Just install an older 32bit version next to it, or replace the plugins with a 64bit alternative. Don’t tell me you can’t find any alternative for those 
Only had V9 for a few hours and on the whole I’m pretty happy. 32bit gone is a good thing. We are moving on as far as I’m concerned, so move on. Plugging in a device and Cubase recognizing it, is my favourite. Though I will says that this should have been done a long time ago.
Frequency is great. Played with it five minutes and fell in love.
Multiple marker tracks cool.
Sampler track is cool but not something I wanted or needed.
The rest is a bit “so what” for me
Now the stuff that pisses me off and also I liked. The new interface inprovements?
I really like the new improvements to the interface with the Zoning stuff. It works great and is a boon to your workflow.
You may call me naive or just an idiot for jumping on the Zoning train and be thinking that there was a genius mind behind it. I think there was but just at the very last second they handed their laptop to their blind, incontinent, epileptic cat and told it to add the finishing touches.
The transport bar, when rolled over have what I would say are extend icons for both extending and contracting. You have no idea whether you are extending something or contracting it. This may seem like a small thing but it drives me nuts.
My real complaint is about the arrangement of the bar on two monitors. It is not good (held back a lot of swearing there). If the are going to make this bar, as good as it looks like it is, work it should work on both a single screen and multiple screens. At the moment it just looks like nobody is trying hard. The transport controls are hacked in half where two monitors meet. Why can’t this stuff just be place where you want? Or failing that spacer added to move things about to suit a multiple monitor layout.
I’m really worried about the Cubase interface. I was hoping for some freedom to place things where you want and be able to customize the interface to suit. It looks like we are going in the opposite direction. I own plenty of applications that allow some amazing amount of customizing. The all leave Cubase back in the stoneage.
Basically I like it but they seem to have stopped well short.
I found a fix though. Open up the cog wheel on the far right of the transport bar then open set up. Then just move the left and right dividers up and down to where it suits you. I would have liked more dividers and the option to size them.
After testing Elements on the MBP for the past couple of weeks, I decided to upgrade to C9 on the main rig. In the end, it was one single reason that made me jump above all others - stability. Subjectively, C9 Elements on the MBP felt snappier, looked a little cleaner and seemed to behave impeccably - for a .01 release at launch, quite something. On the W10 main rig, I found exactly the same thing - not a single hiccup or glitch. I did have spikes I never tracked down in C8.5. So far, an hour of playing around with a moderately busy session, C9 has performed impeccably. Whatever else it may or may not be, C9 feels slick and stable. Aside from the useful and very long-awaited mixer undo, sadly this is pretty much the only reason to upgrade.
I still can’t see myself ever using the Lower Zone. I run a 4 monitor rig - 3 across the front, 1 above and behind. The central screen is for the main project window - everything else has to get out the way and stay out. Extraneous toolbars are banished. Something that a) restricts the project window’ss height and b) is itself so height restricted and thus functionally crippled is as welcome as a polar bear at an antiques shop. The Lower Zone for me is, literally, a waste of space. Also a waste of space and time - the new Transport Bar. I have transport buttons on the top menu bar, and the floating bar on the right hand monitor top right, so a new option to restrict height in the project window is entirely redundant. The Sampler Track, as discussed elsewhere, is currently weighed down with all kinds of problems - maybe successive updates will make this something useful, but until then it will be another unused new feature by me. The Frequency EQ plugin is however rather nice, hardly essential for those already well stocked, but it looks like being a useful workhorse and easy to see where your problems might be.
Meanwhile a myriad of irritations, bugs and underdeveloped features remain. For (glaring) example, with the new crispness, its all the easier to see how ridiculous the truncated names are in the mixer inserts and sends - as others have pointed out, it makes it nigh on impossible to work out what plugins or effects are being used sometimes. There has to be a better system, and Steinberg could do a whole lot worse than looking at how Pro Tools does it - somehow conveying more useful information in less characters in their narrow mix view. Scrapping spaces and vowels first would be a start, eliminating space-wasting "…"s close behind. Anyway, just one example of where Steinberg seem to be focused forever in the wrong place, missing the glaringly obvious in front of all our eyes.
So after a few weeks and an upgrade on the main rig, my initial impression is largely intact. This is overall a poor upgrade. The new features clearly miss the mark for many users (not all). In my view, all are either poorly conceived or executed, and do little to address the pleas of core functionality and workflow improvements. However, where I’ve shifted my view is that under the hood there do appear to have been some significant improvements. While the headline performance seems broadly similar to C8, my early results suggest that it is a less bumpy ride. For that, and that alone, Steinberg are to be congratulated.
I don’t quite understand the “new” lower zone with its fader-only view of the mixer.
This is something you’ve always been able to do and assign to a hotkey for switching it on/off. It’s called a second mixer view (3 have been provided as long as I can remember). All you do is open the second view, position it, select what you want to show and then set it AOT. I tried this as an experiment ages ago but found it impacted on the main project view too much. So assuming I have missed something big in this new feature, what is different to the previous second mixer view option? (No demo so I can’t see this for myself).
Apart from it being in a tabbed interface, very little. Your reasoning for it not being of much value is mine too, and of course it’s equally true of the lower zone, except that the LZ is less flexible.
The mixer can’t be AOT, that is the point.
To be totally frank a lot of those legacy plugins are pretty poor compared with what is available today. I’m guessing that Steinberg feel the same way. However I did find a version of Embracer a while ago that came as a dll file. Perhaps somebody still has a version of this?
Frequency? Well I won’t be giving up Pro Q 2. It is an ok eq but no more than that. I am afraid that I have never used the native plugins other than trying them out. A shame but there you are.
All I care about is that 9 is quick and stable - at last I can use it. Been using Reaper lately because 8 and all its variants only worked when it wanted to. Can’t stand Reaper but it worked - now confined to the bin.
Hallelujah, Cubase 9 drops 32 bit support and the stars align.
I like the feel of the new version. I’m a bit disappointed as I can no longer use Steinberg’s own Virtual Guitar on this version. Still sad that this was never made 64bit as it will cost me around £200 to replace.
Edited this as I have just bought jBridge and VG now works great. Problem solved
So when did they take that out? It’s an option in 7.5, I’ve just checked. So it looks like an existing feature has been taken out to allow a new feature which by and large, does the same thing but with different clothes on.
I am quite satisfied with cubase 9. Only please, the manual the line in Spanish, there are many users who do not speak English and less German. It is for 8.5 but new features have been added that must be mastered; The help of the manual in Spanish is very important and urgent.
Thank you
Ahhh yes, but that allows something to fill up the ever decreasing existence of enough features to warrant a major release. I can’t wait until Cubase 14 when at last all those new preset manager manager managers will allow me to record that hitherto elusive hit single
I’m so hoping that your Avatar is indeed a picture of you.
You are right though. This obsession with more and more features is getting away from the purpose of Cubase which is to use your own creativity make music. No amount of software can do it for you. Which is why all I want is the bugs sorted and a streamlined workflow. Perhaps Steinberg should release the aesthetes version, stripped down and basic ready to take on your choice of plugins and vsti’s. I’d buy that.
I agree with others that this survey was very short, likely irrelevant to the future of Cubase, and likely unhelpful to the developers who are working on C9 right now. This kind of survey is more like a features interest survey done before /during alpha stage of development… anyhow
C9 is pretty good update overall with some minor concerns IMHO… There are really so many different types of users such as production/mixing/scoring/post that it is not going to be possible to make everyone 100% happy.
Me too. Steinberg’s slogan “Creativity First” is really “Complexity First” and ideally, should be “Simplicity First”.
Sadly though, the need to produce regular releases for regular revenue means there is only one direction to go in.
On Intel i5 3470, internal hd video card, windows 7 ultimate 64, 1920*1080 resolution, it looks better than 8.5 and it is definitely snappier. Also it sounds great. No troubles with blacklisted plugins, not a single one even with jbridge installed. Frequency eq sounds excellent.Until now c9 worth the upgrade from 8.5, I feel like we have a winner here.
Is it really useful what Steinberg calls feedback with its users? So far, every query I have made on various topics, none, NONE has received a response. I need to know if they are going to translate the Cubase 9 manual into Spanish. Is it hard to answer saying, in a few more days, in a month or more, or really, a lot of answers?
Well it is a ‘customer feedback survey’. That doesn’t necessarily mean a conversation with feedback from Steinberg… Just a place for customers to give feedback and Steinberg to survey. Commenting back was not offered in the title.
Just sayin…