# Cubase AI 8 and Groove Agent not there

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**Category:** Cubase\
**Tags:** cubase-le-ai\
**Created:** [January 26, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cubase-ai-8-and-groove-agent-not-there/658463 "2016-01-26T20:04:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![rhandville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c4cdca/32.png) [@rhandville](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/rhandville)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cubase-ai-8-and-groove-agent-not-there/658463/1 "2016-01-26T20:04:57Z")

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I’m puzzled. I installed Cubase AI 8 (loving it) and I saw that Groove Agent SE was installed but it is not in my VST list.  
Halion SE is there, and my other VST’s like Kontakt, etc.

The PDF manual says that it should be there but like others on this forum it’s no where to be found.

Is it a mistake that the manual says it should be there and it’s only available in higher versions of this program?

I may upgrade to Cubase Pro 8.5 anyway but I wanted to know.

Thanks in advance for your help

Rick

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**Author:** ![Prock](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/steinberg/user_avatar/forums.steinberg.net/prock/32/649_2.png) [@Prock](https://forums.steinberg.net/u/Prock)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cubase-ai-8-and-groove-agent-not-there/658463/2 "2016-01-30T21:33:26Z")

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See the last post on this thread. I guess GA SE is not included with the AI or LE versions. Sorry

> **[GA 4 SE how to start in project ?](https://forums.steinberg.net/t/ga-4-se-how-to-start-in-project/68111/7)**
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> …the Plug-in-reference\_de.pdf says on page 212 “Containing VST Instruments” Groove Agent SE is included with Cubase LE Cubase AI Cubase Elements Cubase Artist NEK simply NUENDO is not ticked. Matthias, where did you get this information...

Regards 🕶