Not global, but clearly organizations that have more than just a handful of systems. LiMux is reduced (due to some political stupidity), but still alive.
A real global organization would be IBM, they didn’t switch to Linux desktops, but they deployed Apple internally in a really large scale. The numbers are greater than 280k Apple devices
Just out of curiosity I have asked Gemini about other large organizations using Linux, the result is interesting. It names Google, Amazon, Tesla, Pixar, Dreamworks, as well as LiMux, Schleswig-Holstein, South Korea (3 Million PCs switch) and Gendarmerie France.
Brazil government sovereign computer initiative (3 million)
China government agencies and state owned enterprises must migrate by 2027 (62 million)
European Unions commission GDPR compliance review of Windows 11 investigation is finding multiple violations and will be concluding soon.
Denmark’s ministry for digital affairs is pushing a digital sovereignty initiative to replace Microsoft software.
In America, internal leaks revealed that 83 fortune 500 companies have revealed co-ordinated planning to reduce Windows for 40% of the workforce and to to explore linux and mac alternatives.
Developer platform trends for Windows are down while Mac and linux development trends are up.
Many other major companies and industries are running trial tests, developing migration plans or reducing Windows dependency to some extent.
People are becoming increasingly concerned about various things such as national security risks, privacy breaches, legal liabilities, subscription business models, performance and stability issues. etc etc.
International Courts in Den Haag have also shifted towards open source solutions and away from US tech giants due to recent political developments in the US.
Anyone running Cubasis under Linux / ChromeOS? Not the same as Cubase but you could transfer your projects to Cubase on another platform using the DAWProject.
Maybe, but under the hood it’s the same high engineering stuff that has always been.
Look&feel amount to nothing if you have to dig into tons of cryptic configuration files to do simple things, and still, support for the vast majority of useful/good applications out there is missing.
Don’t get me wrong. I have voted to see Steinberg products on Linux, but these arguments are simply pointless. It is about choice, because when we talk about UX, Linux is still quite bad.
Don’t get me even started with arguments like
I thinking with the current events regarding microsoft, the state of windows 11 and the leaked doc about making windows 12 sub based
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and like OSX (which originally came from linux)
As it seems you are just spreading misinformation. There is nothing about Windows 12, less so about subscriptions. The state of Windows 11 is quite good tbh, one of the best OS they have ever produced.
OSX doesn’t originally come from linux, it comes from Barkleys Unix and it is just a simulation, as originally comes from another OS (Darwin) onto which they have added a “Unix Layer” on top.
I hope that I won’t see other posts like yours to sustain this cause, because they do more harm than good.
Do you research and don’t spread misinformation.
That’s BERKELEY as in the University of California Berkeley and its FreeBSD. Apple uses its own open source base called Darwin that shares components with BSD, but is NOT BSD. Its not in anyway a ‘simulation’, whatever that means. The Mach kernel is a proprietary XNU kernel along with the entire proprietary windowing system (is it still called Aqua nowadays?) and all the other Mac stuff on top of it.
OS X spawned from NeXTSTEP and was brought to Apple when they bought NeXT and Steve Jobs came with it.
Has anyone in here had any experience with WinBoat? I have not gotten around to testing it myself, but would be very pleased if this turns out to be a viable solution.
WinBoat is currently in early development, but the project looks kind of promising, I think. Basically its a virtual Windows environment, which integrates the individual Windows programs directly into the Linux user interface as if it was running natively. Unlike other solutions using a translation layer, which isn’t always great for performance and can be imperfect at times, WinBoat runs whatever elements is needed from an actual virtualised Windows. With USB pass-through connecting audio interfaces or MIDI controllers should not be too difficult, as the drivers would be running within Windows. I imagine copy protection, license management or DRM would perhaps be less of an issue, since things like iLok would be virtualised as if in Windows. GPU support is still missing, but that’s apparently in the works.
So maybe WinBoat could be the way to run Cubase and Nuendo in Linux without needing an always connected Microsoft account or other nasty annoyances associated with bare metal Windows? At least until Steinberg realises they would stand out as pretty cool for offering native Linux support.
Winboat is basically another virtual machine, running in Linux, similar to Virtualbox or VMware. It still requires a full Windows license, the FAQ clearly tells you what you need to do.
Because it is a virtual system it will also add some processing overhead and Cubase and Nuendo will see that as extra latency. This is nothing for realtime applications.
One solution that may eventually work for running Cubase/Nuendo is WINE, which basically makes the Windows runtime environment available on Linux, rather than using virtual machine technology (I know … “geek stuff”).
For example, the most recent developments make it possible to now run Photoshop under Linux. No Windows license is required to run applications under WINE.
And no, it’s not easy for new users of Linux to get the latest version of WINE to work flawlessly, but progress is being made very quickly.
One can hope! I’ve had good success with Wine (plus Yabridge) on a lot of apps/plugins, except those with complex copy protection/DRM/licensing kinds of things. Steinberg is currently a no-go in my experience, but you are correct that progress is being made, and I’m hoping developers can at least test and make their licensing systems compatible with Wine, which will open up a whole new range of possibilities on this topic.
The “closest” people are getting with creating the notion of Windows apps appearing native under Linux is running those apps as a Windows VM implemented inside a Docker container.
I used to use both VirtualBox and VMWare Fusion on my Mac, up until the ARM cpus came out (there is no x86 virtualization on ARM). This was my old SoundDiver setup for editing/backing up my synths until I gave in and bought MIDIQuest a few years ago. I tried running both Acid Pro and the old Cubase VST 24/32 in it to open some really old projects and did not get very far at all with Cubase. Perhaps if I had an old audio card I could try to install, but the ASIO didnt work and trying to use the ‘Multimedia’ setup was useless too (remember how Cubase VST made you ‘test’ your system before it would run?). Acid worked ok (but didnt manage to load ANY of the old Direct X plugins properly) but it also used the native audio layers. Maybe the newer ones will fare better, but running a Win 10 virtual machine on my last Intel Mac was a bit of a chore itself.
It is an example of how commercial projects can be beneficial to open source and vice versa. One offers good support, time and money and an organized system, the other offers a community of intelligent and motivated people that work for fun / for the technical challenge / personal gain.
As a note: the developer that patched the Adobe installer submitted his changes directly to the Steam fork of wine because he deems the official wine contributing guidelines too hard to follow. Sometimes OSS projects could be perceived as having too many “barriers to entry”.
That said, Wine could be an option for porting Nuendo / Cubase for sure, since it’s a very thin layer to the Linux kernel and it doesn’t create much overhead, but I believe in Steinberg they have the intelligence and skill… and money if Yamaha backs it up… to do a native software that could outperform the Windows version even on older-ish hardware.
I still dream one day to have the perfect combination of Linux + RME card with TotalMix + Nuendo
As I am installing a Linux ‘music PC’ based on a recent Intel proc, I have some questions related to this thread :
Which distribution do you use ? for its independance I would prefer Debian to Unbuntu ?
It seems that a real time kernel is necessary ?
Does the last Debian version with a real time kernel will manage the various categories of cores in an Core Ultra CPU as well as W11 would do it ? I remember that when Intel introduces procs with 2 types of cores there has been some difficulties to manage in allocation and priorities in windows kernel.
I use Debian on my laptop for everything, but on a dedicated PC I use Ubuntu Studio, which is hard to beat in terms of “it just works”, and only worry about the rest if that doesn’t work out of the box,
I also use Ubuntu Studio, on an older i7-7700 CPU @4.20 GHz x4, I also use Linux Mint 22.3 Cinnamon 64 bit another partition.
Both systems run Reaper and Bitwig
Works well and haven’t run into any problems.
That’s the same computer that runs WIn10 as a DAW perfectly fine but Microsoft deems it not suitable for Win11 and I have to upgrade to a new computer, not gonna happen..ever, I’m done with M$
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Several organizations, primarily in the public sector, European municipalities, and specific Russian industries, are migrating to Linux to avoid Windows 11 hardware restrictions (TPM 2.0), rising costs, and data privacy concerns
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The migration is often driven by “digital sovereignty” goals and the impending end-of-support for Windows 10 in October 2025, which leaves millions of older, perfectly functional computers ineligible for Windows 11.
Some notable entities that are migrating to Linux or open-source solutions include:
The City of Munich, Germany, is returning to open source and Linux.
The Danish Ministry of Digital Affairs is moving away from Windows/Office 365.
The Municipalities of Copenhagen and Aarhus in Denmark are exiting the Microsoft ecosystem due to cost increases and privacy concerns.
Lower Saxony, Germany, plans to migrate police and justice PCs to Linux.
The Italian Ministry of Defense has adopted LibreOffice for over 100,000 desktops.
The Cities of Turin and Barcelona in Italy and Spain, respectively, are switching to open-source desktops.
The French Ministry of Agriculture is adopting open-source infrastructure.
Schleswig-Holstein, Germany, is developing an open-source strategy that includes Linux for endpoints.
Various Russian government entities and companies are moving to domestic Linux distributions due to sanctions and security reasons.
The Chinese government has mandated the removal of foreign OS, leading to migration to domestic Linux distributions.
The primary reasons driving these migrations include hardware requirements for Windows 11, such as the mandatory TPM 2.0, which can render older machines obsolete. Additionally, concerns about privacy due to Windows 11 features and high licensing costs for Windows/Office 365 are significant factors. Improved gaming support on Linux is also becoming a contributing factor
